Lotta hackneyed dialogue in the final two. Felt especially lecture-y. Still liked the series overall, but my wife and I were giving each other "we get it" looks all through the episode.
― schwantz, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
i havent read the book, but i get the impression that the story a book is able to tell--the level of detail and digression and backstory--makes for a much richer experience than the condensed, yes rather lecture-y but even worse sorta dramatically inert, narrative television show that this became.
― ryan, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
I don't like Paul Haggis but I also think the story just doesn't make great drama without a lot of license being taken, and I do think they do a good job of trying to stick to a fair and factual retelling of what happened. The project character narratives get a little more interesting than they start out, but still have a b-level TV movie feel to them. Telling the story of a housing ordinance is kind of a novel idea, but telling the story of the struggles of certain poor and working class people as a mere vehicle for showing what the purpose of the housing was is kind of flat. Immigrant mother not sure whether it's better here or back in DR, daughter from good parents struggling with drug addiction to disappointment of dad, etc., all stories told many times, not that they can't be told richly, like any one of the characters could be the subject of a well-done movie, but here they don't develop too far beyond being types.
I enjoy the way each successive mayor gets elected by promising the same thing and then gets voted out for failing to deliver the same promised thing (I haven't watched the end yet, but Spallone was also a one-term mayor for the same reason as his predecessors).
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 31 August 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
this was outstanding
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
I watched pt 5 last night, will finish pt 6 tonight
Guys, I know it's a bit heavy handed & corny in places but I love this. I loved the lottery and the bus ride to see the new houses & just...idk....these pencil sketches of people's lives, it's really moving
When the crack mom starts her first tenant's meeting with her dream of daycare and the young woman goes in hard about her drain being clogged and she just dies a little on the spot...it was so small but it just felt so true & real
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
and the blind woman "look what you've done with your meddling"
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
these pencil sketches of people's lives, it's really moving
otm
finished it yday...ultimately think it's pretty great, possibly the best non-wire david simon project altho neck and neck w/ generation kill for that honor
VG idk if you know historically what the ending is but if not, steel yrself its rough
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
(i didnt know bc i was six weeks to six years old during the 87-93 time span of this series, deliberately avoided wikipedia-ing)
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
i already knew going in :(
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
9/11 happens at the end
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
unorthodox rezoning technique
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
it's what happens when the liberals win, truly tragic
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
thats what reagan warned us about isnt it, shit
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Also Omar shows up, and then dies.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Then Longo has several councilmen killed off, dissolves the municipal government, and crowns himself emperor, presiding over 30 years of darkness.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
nulty faked the whole thing
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
this is still sitting on my dvr but there was a good men in blazers w/ simon this week
― balls, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
great final ep but ughhhhhhh so sad
wasicsko's sobbing breakdown :/
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link
i thought for a moment they wouldnt show it but then
i cried for 20 solid minutes
― sarahell, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 06:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah it was rough :(
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
Slayed me.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
can we get Oscar an Emmy plz thx
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
i hadnt really thought about it til now but those hallucinations of nick's dad leaning against the tree made him look kinda distant & disapproving...even though nick clearly idolized him maybe that was the empty hole that he was trying to fill with votes/approval etc
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
i am still really sad about nick waciscko
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
this show ruined my life, basically
this thread is now for holding hands quietly staring out a window & sighing
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
*sigh*
i turned to my husband this morning and was like, "i'm so sad about nick waciscko" and he was like, "still?" he has no soul.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
oscar isaac is really something
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
and he really did kill himself in the cemetery, i thought it was maybe a dramatic element but ughhhhhh
so sad
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/show-me-a-hero/homepage/2015/august/150824-ep04-nick-outside-1024.jpg
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
;_;
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
I think an emmy nom has to be a given for isaac
lonely guy just thinking baout hings
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
isaac will def get an emmy nom
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link
holy shit I've been trying to figure out all this time who his gf reminded me of, and I just realized it's Janet from Three's Company
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
lol not bad, she does have that relatable look & actually like this girl ive been hanging out w/ a lot recently
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:54 (nine years ago) link
i wonder now if im going to see janet from threes co. in this gal friend hm idk
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link
she is v easy on the eyes
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link
4 shur
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:05 (nine years ago) link
i kinda fell in love with her shoulderpads after a while
imma miss these people
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link
She and Isaac both of course look much prettier out of their late 80s Yonkers getups.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link
oscar is the most attractive man in the galaxy
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:13 (nine years ago) link
I always like hearing that because, like me, he is a modest 5'9" in stature.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
so I'm not disqualified from being galaxy-class attractive
i normally adhere to a pretty strict "you must be this tall to ride" policy but he is so pretty I've waived the height requirement
godDAMN he is lovely
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
well geez I was just speaking generally, not asking for a waiver :p
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:15 (nine years ago) link
um i only waved the height requirement for him :p
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link
the "brick by brick" documentary is on vimeo fyi
http://www.brick-by-brick.com/hbo.html
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 September 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link