2008 Primaries Thread

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now hillary is sounding kind of wack

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

hah yeah xp'd by alfred

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

But she's doing her attack in a surprisingly effective way. Not too mean or petty-sounding.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

btw Andy McCarthy's response to the debate above:

Hillary Just Announced ... the Bush Doctrine [Andy McCarthy]

Any state that gives safe-haven to terrorists who would attack the United States will face massive retaliation ... as if that state was part of the terrorist organization. Where have I heard that before?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

she should have transitioned out of the foreign policy part into whats wrong w/ obama but instead she's doing that calibrating and positioning re:"change" and vague shit like "consistency"

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Aside from Richardson (maybe), didn't they all endorse the Bush doctrine?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

and Richardson's a "realist" of the old school, so of course he would.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Is HRC trying to woo Edwards as a veep candidate?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

how liberally are you guys defining the bush doctrine?? any preemptive actions of any kind???

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Everybody's oddly defending Edwards.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

or as someone who could help her nail obama

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Custody battle.

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh Obama is awful at this sort of thing.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

there's a difference between declaring war unilaterally on a single nation and tactical missile strikes against rogue groups WITHIN a country that the nation can't control

This is kind of a thorny theoretical problem, and this not really the time and place, but there are all kinds of problems with that distinction: who is the arbiter on what constitutes a "rogue group" and what does "can't control" mean? (All of this, of course, assuming that the "host country" opposes the U.S. going in.)

Jeb, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think he is flailing terribly right now

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

obama is anticipating some negative shit coming his way

johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

As I have remarked before, Obama is a pretty mediocre debater.

Jeb, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

jeb i agree - which is why dividing people into 'pro bush doctrine!' and 'anti-bush doctrine' is kind of useless

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

xps

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

He is a mediocre debater. Still, Obama closes that one nicely. But he didn't get a chance to refute some of those flip-flop charges.

Now Edwards is chosing his dance partner.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

edwards is being kind of annoying. and i like him.

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

So are we gonna bomb the forces of status quo or not?

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

damn double team

petey_carnum, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

good to see edwards turn on clinton too, was afraid he'd be against just obama

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I said on the other thread that Obama's a bit like a Law Professor: Great at stump speaking, a bit rattled and humbled when challenged.

Now HRC will attack Edwards. Temporary alliance over. Knives out.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

35 years of change? child plz

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

lollllll

richardson to hillary: "u mad"

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I'M VOTING FOR RICHARDSON!

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

lol fuuuuuuuuuck richardson. this is the same type of thing step said wasn't going to happen w/ him tonight.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

wait what happened? i missed it.

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

CHANGE

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

hes kind of a hippie

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Richardson surging. He's gone head-to-head with the North Koreans.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Richardson said he'd been in hostage negotiations that were more civil...

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

does a bill richardson smoke weed?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Thompson's jab was soooo lame - a failed Mccainism.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

richardson coming out against obama weirdly

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

And the spotlight moment for Richardson amounts to . . . nothing.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's gonna count all that change?

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh edwards stump speech time

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Richardson got the remains of soldiers back from North Korea.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's gonna count all that change?

-- Kerm, Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:38 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

coinstar

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, at last: Edwards' Romney moment: "good" corporations.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

haha charlie zinging edwards

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah deej otm. anti-corp shit is played/boring/plz stop

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

take a drink every time someone says 'change'

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Ron Paul: "STOP MINTING CHANGE"

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck.. edwards shilling for at&t????

petey_carnum, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sorta glad HRC will win this debate. If she didn't, I'm fairly sure she would beat and slap Bill senseless later tonight.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha kerm

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link


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