Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

Quincy got good genes.

i went to twin peaks fest 2 years ago (which was p kewl. i met mz fenn and a bunch of other cast members) so i made friends with a bunch of the "superfan" community, so a lot of my fb feed has been pictures of them just HANGING OUT by the set all day together taking selfies. it's making me irrationally angry, like wtf let the people work you don't have to be there while the thing is being filmed. i couldnt imagine just hanging out all day while john cassavetes was making a movie taking selfies. this goes into a deeper conversation about how fans of things think they own the thing they are a fan of and they are special snowflakes that should get to be there while the thing is being filmed because they are the most passionate or w/e but god it makes me mad.

I have a feeling that people who are that precious about it are bound to be huuuuugely disappointed by whatever insane thing Lynch ultimately puts out.

a deeper conversation about how fans of things think they own the thing they are a fan of and they are special snowflakes that should get to be there while the thing is being filmed because they are the most passionate

This so much, with everything.

fans of things today are basically intoxicated with access, it can be p nice but it can be v gross

Was really looking forward to more scenes with Truman and Albert Rosenfield and then thought - has Miguel Ferrer been spotted?

It just occurred to me how admirably Miguel Ferrer has avoided cashing his chips and riding his cousin's coattails to a William Mapother-esque career.

Mad respect for Ferrer that's one biography i want to read.

Guess he's in! https://twitter.com/Miguel_J_Ferrer/status/599622511588835328

it's kind of weird how no one aside from McLachlan has really been confirmed for this; if shooting started already aren't people being seen in the area? Are they hiding out in disguise? Have no actual actors shown up yet?

I hope the series starts with Donna's funeral

tons of ppl have been seen and have been confirmed thats why we were all like "wow its amazing everyone is coming back"

I keep just seeing "only mclachlan is confirmed to return" so who is the full list? IMDB lists:

dana ashbrook
kyle mclachlan
sherilyn fenn
kimmy robertson
sheryl lee

and that's it for returning people for more than one episode. a crapload of others are listed for 1 episode only but it seems like just the complete list of original cast, to me, so that seems all pretty unlikely.

new people:

amanda seyfrief
balthazar getty

loads of people have been reported on-set shooting see upthread

haha I take it back those are all imdb links

list is longer than yrs tho

that wordless ontkean close-up in "the descendants" was so odd. it's obvious that he probably had a smallish speaking role that was trimmed out in the editing.

oh I missed that list above. keenly leaves out Fenn....she's been quiet on FB lately too. Hope she's back.

what happens to audrey at the end of the show is somewhat ambiguous i guess but i feel like not really?

SPOILER ALERT

that was a p big explosion she was very close to

i feel like there is no way this going to be good but i will of course watch it

Almost off-topic but I was very disappointed to find out recently that Lynch's transcendental meditation thing is not just a relaxation/concentration technique but a full-blown moneymaking cult. Not nearly the craziest or evilest cult but still pretty loopy and dodgy. Of course it's been going on long before him but it's sad that he's contributing to it.

xpost I think it stands a very good chance of being good. I think it also stands the chance, however, of not closely resembling classic Twin Peaks.

full-blown moneymaking cult

eh not really

I mean they aren't the Moonies or Sai Baba or Heaven's Gate or even Scientology

im really looking forward to attending the invincible donovan university in edinburgh once it's up and running

From what I've seen and read there is quite a lot paying to learn things that could be done for free. And the promise of magic powers.

they're not dhamma.org but they're largely non-profit and there's no dogma, there's no isolating practitioners from their families/lives, there's no hierarchies based on abuse, there's no indoctrination etc.

I mean, they're pretty harmless. Complaining that they make money from their activities is legit imo, (if you don't think religions should charge people for things, which I happen to agree with), but again with these types of organization the line between religion and idk "educational" outfit is pretty blurry.

it works for Lynch (obviously) so I don't really gaf personally

Maharishi was always a bit of a suspect figure and anything that has Mike Love as a core supporter is suspect to me.

although if Mike Love showed up on twin peaks as some kind of deranged creature from the black lodge or some woodlands dweller with a basement full of corpses, I'd like him a lot more.

haha yes

Maharishi was always a bit of a suspect figure

not really. the "rumors" that spooked the Beatles have been debunked many times over as being trumped up

he does seem like a weirdo.

but then lots of saddhus are weirdos

(yes I know he was not a saddhu btw)

Mike (Love) and Bob

and he's not like Sai Baba, who faced constant accusations of sex abuse and fraud for years

xp

http://www.suggestibility.org/

I've mostly read this by a former teacher of transcendental meditation. He makes the whole thing sound pretty sinister.

religious gurus are always suspect figures full stop.

Ya'll seen the documentary about Lynch and TM, David Wants to Fly? It'll give you the heebie-jeebies about the Maharishi, and, sadly, Lynch. Also I grew up in the Iowa town the Maharishi university is and I assure you, it is aggressively weird there.

I've practiced tm on and off for 25 years (I wish I could be more consistent with it bc it def works for me) without interacting with Maharishi corp at all (after paying a couple hundred bucks to learn the technique at the beginning). I'm definitely a booster of the technique itself but not all the stuff that comes along with it which is super gross to me.

so is sherilynn fenn back or not? she's been silent on FB, on twitter she said she's back filming "shameless" where it was nice to work with people who treated her professionally; and someone else told her that her temper tantrums weren't helping her career. It's a little unfathomable to me that they would consider the show without her.

If she's not doing TP, it'll be pretty easy to explain what happened to Audrey, since we never found out whether she died in that explosion in the penultimate episode. And I guess they're gonna use the same reason to explain why Pete isn't around anymore.

Yeah but it's be a shame if there was a need to do so. Obv with nance it's unavoidable but if fenn is written out due to ill-feeling that's way more of a bummer than ontkean just not wanting to act anymore, esp given how central fenn was both to the original show and the campaign to get lynch back onboard

She's also pretty much the only person from the show who has aged naturally. I hope that has nothing to do with it.

(speaking of which: any word on Boyle or Moira Kelly?)

I suppose Pete and Audrey could've been mangled by the bomb blast and are now to be portrayed by other actors swaddled in bandages or disfigured beyond recognition.

i'll probably be totally wrong, but i'm not expecting twin peaks II to be a direct, linear successor to the original. i expect that they'll make connections to the old series, of course, and that there will be some continuity with the old characters and what they were doing. but in general i hope that the new series kind of rhymes with the older one rather than trying to pick up where it left off, if that makes sense

Yeah, I think people who are expecting a direct continuation are going to be mighty disappointed. I wouldn't be surprised if, for example, the first episode didn't even feature any of the original characters (a la the opening half hour or so of FWWM).

x-post: totally makes sense to me. and sincerely hope it turns out that way!

Maybe it'll all take place in the Black Lodge.

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