2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

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I feel like the current House of Representatives is one of the few things in modern American society that could be accurately described as a tar baby with no briar patch in sight.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/mitch-mcconnell-entitlement-changes-fiscal-talks/

Here they go again...

McConnell spokesman Don Stewart declined to comment on the GOP leader's proposal in the talks with Democrats, citing the private nature of the fiscal discussions. White House officials also refused to discuss any specific proposals being traded in the talks.

But even though the White House has backed some entitlement changes in the past, notably overhauling how Social Security cost-of-living payments are calculated, a spokeswoman said that the President would not accept them in the current round of negotiations if they were offered.

"Proposals such as raising the eligibility age for Medicare and changing the way Social Security retirement benefits are indexed to inflation are non-starters for the administration and Democrats in Congress," said Jennifer Friedman, a White House spokeswoman.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

Everyone but the rich and military get ready to tighten your belts.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

pfft I can't afford a belt

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

but you can buy one of those fabric belts in Target for $4 now

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

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balls, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

he valiant efforts of Senators Mike Lee and Ted Cruz

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

the most loyal voters in his own party

haha isn't the problem here that they are actually totally disloyal and unreliable

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

eric hoffer to thread obv

balls, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

the nra sends out like 12 emails like that daily from like 12 different branches and pacs plus an insane amount of pitches to sell merchandise. like once an hour or so, like kos + moveon + dnc + ofa cubed

balls, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Where was Ryan's concern for his family when he was up for VP? VP is, granted, a pretty chill job, but one with the potential to morph into a different job - one which is famously pretty demanding?

forbidden fruitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

that excuse is a total dodge but presumably his children are different ages

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

now

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

what about the children in the House

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

From the McConnell article:

"This is the same GOP congressional leadership that has failed to repeal ObamaCare, defund Planned Parenthood, stop the Iranian nuclear deal, build the Keystone pipeline, defend traditional marriage, secure the border, and reject Obama's illegal executive amnesty," Huckabee said. "But now we should trust them to 'reform' Social Security and Medicare -in exchange for more deficit spending and endless debt?"

And they say conservatives are paid to not govern!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 09:12 (eight years ago) link

They love endless debt if it went away they would have to come up w a new trump card for cutting things that help the non-rich.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

iswydt

pplains, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

I'm half assuming Ryan is just hoping everyone leaves him alone at this stage.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

So the original indictment said : Each of the two charges carries a penalty of as much as five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, the prosecutor’s office said. Mr. Hastert is to appear at an arraignment at a future date, the prosecutors said.

The plea deal might allow him to avoid jail and keep his misdeeds secret.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

pissed about O's "revised" Afghanistan withdrawal plan, cue Morbz' "I told you so"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

@ggreenwald
1st question on today's press call w/WH on Obama's new Afghanistan War policy: "How will President's statement impact Dem chances in 2016?"

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

Glenn Greenwald Retweeted
‏@BarackObama 12 Oct 2012
FACT: Romney and Ryan don't have a plan for our troops in Afghanistan. The President has a clear plan to end the war in 2014. #DetailsMatter

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I don't know why leaving troops in Aghanistan means the war isn't over. There are still troops in lots of countries. Often they remain because, like in Afghanistan, there are continuing threats to the govt in power. Obv the US troops in Afghanistan are in a hotter conflict than in S Korea or Germany but that's because the Taliban are still trying to retake the country. If anything I think it's good that he's leaving troops there - shows he learnt from his mistakes in Iraq.

Mordy, Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

hey, it's the guvmint in power

https://www.marionettes-puppets.com/images/P/3_marionettes-ru029.jpg

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

shows he learnt from his mistakes in Iraq.

iirc, the US gov definitely wanted to keep some troops in Iraq, but the al Maliki gov refused. so how does this become Obama's mistake?

Blind Lemon Extract (Aimless), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

iirc al Maliki gov just refused to grant US troops total immunity from prosecution from future war crimes committed while they were in the country. Obama decided it was better to just remove them all than deal w/ that headache. Instead he got a different headache.

Mordy, Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/260415484674068481

@BarackObama 22 Oct 2012
FACT: President Obama kept his promise to end the war in Iraq. Romney called the decision to bring our troops home “tragic.”

drash, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

lol these clowns:

In an interview with WIBX 950 in New York on Wednesday, moderate Republican Rep. Richard Hanna said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy was speaking the truth when he said this month that the committee had successfully injured Clinton.

“Sometimes the biggest sin you can commit in D.C. is to tell the truth,” Hanna told the upstate New York radio station. “This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton.”

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link

love the whole game of trying to pretend like this was not completely obvious

1998 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/15/top-party-official-accuses-democratic-national-chairwoman-of-lying-questions-her-leadership/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202&_r=0

Wouldn't it be great if she had to quit that position? But probably won't happen

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

lol Reid doing some classic knife-twisting here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harry-reid-paul-ryan-house-speaker_5626879de4b02f6a900e20a4?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&ref=yfp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

only in this bizarro world could a statement of "we'll be able to work with him" be misconstrued as FIRE BAD

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Harriet Miers again

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

A group of conservative House Republicans on Tuesday unveiled a proposal to raise the debt limit through March 2017 that also calls for mandatory spending cuts.

The Republican Study Committee's "Terms of Credit Act" would raise the debt ceiling by roughly $1.5 trillion -- to a total of $19.6 trillion -- through March 2017.

But the committee is setting a steep price for the debt limit increase. The bill would require congressional committees to produce legislation within 90 days that would cut more than $3.8 trillion in mandatory funding over the next decade. Mandatory funding covers programs like Medicare, Social Security and food stamps.

They also have a condition to impose on their colleagues in the Senate: the measure would eliminate the filibuster for an initial procedural vote on spending bills any time after Oct. 1. The legislation would also freeze all regulations until July 1, 2017, several months into the next presidential administration.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

The bill would require congressional committees to produce legislation within 90 days that would cut more than $3.8 trillion in mandatory funding over the next decade

hmmmm sounds like a real legislative winner, good luck with that guys

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

2011 obama/biden might be into that

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

I like how they think the House can pass laws that apply to Senate rules, really adorable

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

no joke

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

all Harry Reid has to say is, "I support these freezes on regulations" and the GOP will drop them.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

haha yeah Harry Reid should just say he supports whatever ludicrous shit the Freedom Caucus comes up with

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Paul Ryan babbling about solutions, children, and propositions.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

Someone needs to form the Too Funky caucus

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link

Nothing new in that article regarding Ryan's plans, but maybe it will remind inside the beltway types whom he really is (not likely, but I can dream, and they are probably happy to blame federal government workers )

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Grover Norquist talks to Michael Grunewald:

MG: I’m giving you an opportunity to declare victory here. Because it seems like as a percentage of the economy, historically, taxes are pretty low today.

GN: Lower than they have been. Not as low as they should be.

MG: The fiscal cliff deal in 2013 did raise taxes on everyone making more than $450,000 a year, and you were actually OK with that.

GN: That was a phenomenal victory. All the Bush tax cuts were going to expire on January 1. All Obama had to do was twiddle his thumbs and go for a walk, and taxes were going to increase by $5 trillion over a decade. He would have gotten the largest tax increase in the history of western civilization. Not only didn’t he do that, he allowed 85 percent of the Bush tax cuts to be made permanent, for 99 percent of the country.

MG: But taxes went up, and you were OK with it. A lot of people expected you to take the maximalist position, that you can’t vote for anything that allows taxes to go up.

GN: The pledge has been a powerful tool because it’s written down, it doesn’t move, it’s simple. It’s one line: You can’t vote for net tax increases. It’s a binary thing: Fred either voted to raise taxes from the status quo or he didn’t. It’s a guardrail. When the law says a tax cut has lapsed, I can’t say that the failure to renew it is a tax increase, even if I want it renewed. Yes, voters might think that, but the pledge is the pledge. If I changed the pledge to fit the circumstances, Harry Reid would be right when he says, 'Oh, Republicans just do whatever is Grover’s thought of the day.'

MG: My one quibble is that you make it sound like Republicans snookered Obama into cutting taxes for most Americans. I think he was happy to cut taxes for all but the very wealthy. Even Democrats are coming around to the Grover way!

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/10/grover-norquist-tax-interview-000288

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

The entire GOP platform is boiled down to simple one line pieces of bullshit

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

and the Dems have absorbed it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

where is the story about Grover Norquist sleeping with a giant Mr. Peanut next to his bed

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link


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