Hey it's halloween, everybody should shit their pants - ilx horror crew top tens.

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Slowness in horror movies is hugely underrated.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

The grimy carny noir aspects sort of act as template for Rob Zombie. Isn't his next movie about killer clowns or something?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

The "Meet Mr. Barlow" is my go-to clip for Halloween now. It's hard to find a great scare clip that doesn't involve stuff you can't show to a grade 6 class, or that can stand alone and doesn't require a lot of introductory explanation. Reactions vary quite a bit. I had one class that went nuts (screaming, etc.), one class that laughed, another that had hardly any reaction at all. No explanation.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

Do you open every class with a movie clip?

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

Yes. We spend 47% of the year on movie clips, the rest is divided up between six or seven subject areas.

(I show the Salem's Lot clip once a year. On Halloween.)

clemenza, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

Best thing about being a grade-school teacher, unless you're in the wrong place, is that no one's ever looking over your shoulder--you pretty much do whatever you want to do. Obviously, I do show a lot of movie clips; it you were doing this, I bet you would too, Eric.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

Unquestionably.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Main point is, I agree: incredible jump-scare, and it requires about three seconds' worth of set-up. "Weird stuff has been happening around town...here's a guy asleep in his jail cell."

clemenza, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

While that scene in isolation works wonderfully (I'd unfortunately already seen it before I watched the movie), the general air of protracted, quiet menace in the lead-up made it even more effective.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

Tangentially related to the discussion (though not to horror at all): Last week I did an exercise with the (university) Children's Lit class that I work with where I had them anonymously write down what they would like me to keep doing, stop doing and start doing during class time, and they seem to overwhelmingly want me to talk less and show more videos. I've already shown them Little Red Riding Rabbit during our unit on fairy tales, and I sent them an optional link to Apaches (the emotionally scarring "don't play around farm equipment" British PSA from the 70s) for our unit on moralistic literature. This week is Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, which presents a variety of options, I guess, but I'm not particularly in love with any of the film versions I've seen of it, so idk.

So yeah, movie clips as a teaching tool is fun, but I'm gonna have to get creative.

Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

In keeping with the thread topic, there are a number of early film versions of Alice (including a silent or two?) that are kinda terrifying.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Well there's always the Jan Svankmajer one

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

Having a couple of people over to watch Larry Cohen's The Stuff and an undecided second film on Saturday...right now the titles in contention are:

Re-Animator
*The Blob (80s remake)
Uzumaki
*Society
Phase IV
Happiness of the Katakuris

* = I haven't seen it yet

Phase IV is probably out unless people express interest; it's an awesome movie and one of the two people coming loved The Hellstrom Chronicle but it's probably not a good followup for something I picked to be fun while extremely drunk.

Dunno how properly "horror" it is but I finally sat down and watched A Field In England the other day and found it really deeply frightening in places. An amazing balancing act with the humor and almost Greenaway-ish detachment and dry humor actually working without undercutting the really horrible stuff (I am thinking specifically of the slow-motion tent/rope scene here, but there were a handful of other moments that managed the same trick of scaring me more with their implications than anything explicit).

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link

The Blob is p good but really if yr having a drunk viewing party Re-Animator is the way to go imo. (Society is also great but takes forever to get to the payoff iirc). Phase IV is more of a stoner/hallucinogen movie imo.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

if you want to keep the Larry Cohen theme going, "God Told Me To" would be my other rec. that movie is insane.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

God Told Me To is a classic fer sure

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link

Society is required viewing, esp with an oblivious audience.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

if you go with Society I'd say watch it first

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Society is awesome but tbh I've enjoyed it more on re-watches, b/c I know the pay-off is coming and I know it's going to be great, whereas the first time I saw it I was a bit "bleh, this is a bit of a stupid film" most of the way through.

I really want to watch Uzumaki, the comic is amazing.

emil.y, Friday, 23 October 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link

Blob remake is quite good value and recommended. I'll second all of the stock Cohen recommendations and offer up the dark horse pick of It's Alive 3: Island of the Alive, which is cheesy and terrible and delightful and amazing.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 October 2015 01:55 (eight years ago) link

Basically, anything Cohen or Henenlotter makes for excellent drunk viewing.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 October 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link

I haven't seen it since 1990 or so, but I remember really digging the 80s Blob as a kid during its initial cable run.

Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Friday, 23 October 2015 03:17 (eight years ago) link

Saw a screening last year, definitely holds up - my first time seeing it too. Fun all around, great ending set-up.

Nhex, Friday, 23 October 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

I had a huge crush on Kevin Dillon bcz of the Blob

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 October 2015 05:47 (eight years ago) link

The Blob it is. Especially since this lets me use an awesome/terrible idea I've had kicking around for the while and serve strawberry jello shots with boozy whipped cream on top.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Friday, 23 October 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link

Just watched Evil Dead for the first time ever. I was prepared for something like Dead Alive (maybe the second one is more along those lines?) but the effects and makeup and sound design were horrifying and super over the top (they really made the most of their $250 or whatever the movie cost to make!). Surprised the hell out of me. It was great, of course. I'm sure this isn't news to 95% of horror fans. I'm probably going to watch Evil Dead 2 for the first time ever tomorrow (jealous?).

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 October 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link

omg 2 is the best, you can't handle how great it is first time around imo

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2015 03:46 (eight years ago) link

super jelly!!! round it off with Army of Darkness!

just watched Hellraiser for the first time, love those creature effects... and the lustful housewife. plan to go through more of them as they all seem to be on Netflix right now

Nhex, Saturday, 24 October 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link

AoD is oooooook but not a patch on the first two imo

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 24 October 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

Evil dead and hellraiser are both the rare examples where #2 is the best, but for decidedly different reasons

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 24 October 2015 06:39 (eight years ago) link

ED2 for me is what a Looney Tunes horror movie would look like & it's the reason I will love Sam Raimi forever

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2015 07:07 (eight years ago) link

Nhex, do yourself a favor and don't go too far with the Hellraisers. I managed to make it as far as the fourth one based on my love of the first two, but they get dire very quickly. I thought the third was stupid as shit when I was in high school and barely had the critical faculties to discern whether a movie might be awful. If anything, I'd recommend checking out some of the comics (which maintained the vibe and had some decent creators, and which had a recent revival actually written by Barker) after watching the second one.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 October 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

The third is fascinatingly dated. Some 90s films look like they're from a different planet. It's similar to the cheesy 90s Image comics that were supposed to be ultra modern and super cool.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 24 October 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

Just watched the first two hellraisers last week. Loved the first one, thought the second one was good in places but kind of sucked. Not planning to continue.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 October 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

The third features a DJ cenobite that shoots deadly CDs out of its mouth. That's pretty much all you need to know.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 October 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

Oh man, yeah. The third is rrreally fuckin' dumb. There's also a cenobite with a video camera stuck in his head where the best they could come up with is "he...I guess he leans in real close to people? and the lens through his eye telescopes out and stabs them in the face?"

I'm kind of regretting not setting aside some money for Arrow's recent, now sold-out rerelease of the films. It included #3, which is a bit of a downgrade, but Arrow do amazing extras, and even managed to dig up the borderline mythical "surgeon scene" from a VHS workprint:

https://drinksandwings.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/hellraiser-ii.jpg

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 24 October 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

Really, the Hellraiser 3 cenobites are indistinguishable from PLEASURE TOAST. Take an underpaid character actor, jam a household electrical appliance through their face, bam, done.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 24 October 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

good lord that sounds dire. ok, i may take this advice, depending on how much my brother wants to torture me

Nhex, Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

Hellraiser III is ludicrously on the nose and lol '90s ...

https://31.media.tumblr.com/eea4f0f54d157f40e0b5588cbb8a0d47/tumblr_my6ok02oQp1rp0vkjo1_500.gif

thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

OMG @ EVIL DEAD 2. Don't I feel like a stupid idiot for never watching it before now. Like a goddamn roller coaster, that thing. Raimi and Campbell bring it 150%. It's kind of impossible to believe that this was made by the same guy responsible for Spider-Man 3 and Oz The Great and Powerful.

I'm way more excited about Drag Me To Hell now so I might fit that in sometime this weekend.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Drag me to Hell bears zero resemblance to ED2

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

That's a bit extreme - it has some of the same kinetic energy. (Personally I love it but it might be the most divisive horror movie of the aughts.)

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

It also has a lot of errant fluid in unwilling mouth gags.

thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

It's plenty like Evil Dead, the possessions, demons, splatstick and regular assaults are there and she even says "I'm gonna get some! Yeah!" in a very Ash manner. But most of the visual style is completely different.
I'd recommend Within The Woods too (a short before Evil Dead that follows roughly the same template).

I've never seen his Crimewave but I've heard it has a very similar style. The trailers certainly support that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Dare I once again mention how much I LOVED the evil dead remake from last (this?) year?

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Sunday, 25 October 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

I think most people liked it better than they expected. I thought the outdoor scenes looked beautiful, nice and wet.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 October 2015 10:08 (eight years ago) link

omg that Pleasure Toast thing had me rolling, thank you TT

Drag Me To Hell is great, very much in the style of the older Raimi

Nhex, Sunday, 25 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Drag Me To Hell was indeed great! All the talk about multiple instances of nasty shit going into people's mouths made me a bit wary but the OTT audacity of it was cracking me up. I wish it had happened more, if anything. My only quibble was the obvious transparency of the envelope mix-up (even if said transparency was clearly intentional on Raimi's part) but the bluntness of the ending definitely made up for it.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

Truly the best horror movie finale since I don't even know when.

thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 26 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

haha yes. great use of main title and the front and finish, too!

Nhex, Monday, 26 October 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link


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