Hey it's halloween, everybody should shit their pants - ilx horror crew top tens.

Nhex, do yourself a favor and don't go too far with the Hellraisers. I managed to make it as far as the fourth one based on my love of the first two, but they get dire very quickly. I thought the third was stupid as shit when I was in high school and barely had the critical faculties to discern whether a movie might be awful. If anything, I'd recommend checking out some of the comics (which maintained the vibe and had some decent creators, and which had a recent revival actually written by Barker) after watching the second one.

The third is fascinatingly dated. Some 90s films look like they're from a different planet. It's similar to the cheesy 90s Image comics that were supposed to be ultra modern and super cool.

Just watched the first two hellraisers last week. Loved the first one, thought the second one was good in places but kind of sucked. Not planning to continue.

The third features a DJ cenobite that shoots deadly CDs out of its mouth. That's pretty much all you need to know.

Oh man, yeah. The third is rrreally fuckin' dumb. There's also a cenobite with a video camera stuck in his head where the best they could come up with is "he...I guess he leans in real close to people? and the lens through his eye telescopes out and stabs them in the face?"

I'm kind of regretting not setting aside some money for Arrow's recent, now sold-out rerelease of the films. It included #3, which is a bit of a downgrade, but Arrow do amazing extras, and even managed to dig up the borderline mythical "surgeon scene" from a VHS workprint:

https://drinksandwings.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/hellraiser-ii.jpg

Really, the Hellraiser 3 cenobites are indistinguishable from PLEASURE TOAST. Take an underpaid character actor, jam a household electrical appliance through their face, bam, done.

good lord that sounds dire. ok, i may take this advice, depending on how much my brother wants to torture me

Hellraiser III is ludicrously on the nose and lol '90s ...

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OMG @ EVIL DEAD 2. Don't I feel like a stupid idiot for never watching it before now. Like a goddamn roller coaster, that thing. Raimi and Campbell bring it 150%. It's kind of impossible to believe that this was made by the same guy responsible for Spider-Man 3 and Oz The Great and Powerful.

I'm way more excited about Drag Me To Hell now so I might fit that in sometime this weekend.

Drag me to Hell bears zero resemblance to ED2

That's a bit extreme - it has some of the same kinetic energy. (Personally I love it but it might be the most divisive horror movie of the aughts.)

It also has a lot of errant fluid in unwilling mouth gags.

It's plenty like Evil Dead, the possessions, demons, splatstick and regular assaults are there and she even says "I'm gonna get some! Yeah!" in a very Ash manner. But most of the visual style is completely different.
I'd recommend Within The Woods too (a short before Evil Dead that follows roughly the same template).

I've never seen his Crimewave but I've heard it has a very similar style. The trailers certainly support that.

Dare I once again mention how much I LOVED the evil dead remake from last (this?) year?

I think most people liked it better than they expected. I thought the outdoor scenes looked beautiful, nice and wet.

omg that Pleasure Toast thing had me rolling, thank you TT

Drag Me To Hell is great, very much in the style of the older Raimi

Drag Me To Hell was indeed great! All the talk about multiple instances of nasty shit going into people's mouths made me a bit wary but the OTT audacity of it was cracking me up. I wish it had happened more, if anything. My only quibble was the obvious transparency of the envelope mix-up (even if said transparency was clearly intentional on Raimi's part) but the bluntness of the ending definitely made up for it.

Truly the best horror movie finale since I don't even know when.

haha yes. great use of main title and the front and finish, too!

http://www.avclub.com/article/25-best-horror-movies-2000-227068

got all the way to 25 before i realized this list was total garbage prepared by sacs of trash

There were some good ones in there, but the order was all kinds of f'd up.

Drag Me to Hell (which I still love) is basically Night/Curse of the Demon, right down to the train station finale.

I believe both Drag Me To Hell and Night/Curse of the Demon (which is still in my Halloween queue for this year) are based on M.R. James's 'Casting The Runes' (which I recently read and which, to be honest, bears only a superficial resemblance to Drag Me To Hell).

After I first saw it I was amazed there was not so much as a "adapted from" or "inspired by" credit.

Some strong scary movie contenders I thought of have been Grave Encounters and the first two Rec films. Oculus has also stuck with me. And has anyone (or I?) mentioned "S&Man?"

Ohhhh yeah S&Man! Jesus. That thing creeped the SHIT out of me.

Fans of S&Man, see Megan Is Missing, which seems like it ought to be illegal to watch.

Didn't someone describe that in one of the other horror threads as Deathdr0ne: The Movie? I am as likely to watch that as I am A Serbian Movie. Which is to say: no.

"A Serbian Film" was kind of surreal in its ridiculous horrificness, and while I've since read a couple of things about the civil war there to make me reconsider many of the objections I've had, the movie still works better in a vacuum than in practice. But S&Man was clever and sort of incisive (or at least provocative) about why we watch horror films.

I was lumping Megan Is Missing in with A Serbian Film, if that was unclear.

Read the synopsis of MiM, ugh. At least ASF was claiming to be making a point, however facile one thinks it.

Hate torture stuff, but I still think this is the one I want to see the least:
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Wow, that's big, sorry.

when did that come out?

cuz it looks like a cheap ripoff of a Grant Morrison Batman villain

Dunno. A decade ago?

Also, there was Grotesque (2009, Japan), the first film to be outright banned in UK for a long time. Director also did Noroi, which I didn't care for much but lots of people seem to love it.

Don't have the interest or patience for endurance test torture films anymore. Not my preferred cup of harrowing.

It's not even just the torture, it's the entire direction I'm not interested in.

The Butcher is 2009, this is 2007:

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There are pig masks all over horror movies.

the pig plus butcher's smock plus chainsaw is def something that appears in the comic, I just couldn't find an online image

Pig mask plus chainsaw is also in Motel Hell (1980).

And like 40 other things

huh ok then

I have seen Motel Hell but only remember random things - the "harvest" etc.

Wait sorry, like 400 other things.

Megan is Missing is brutally brutally sad among other things. My tastes run towards the bleak in horror so I thought it was excellent, but yeah, it's a rough watch on a lot of levels.

Xpost Korean Butcher also 2007, actually. It's a tie!

Man, reading a description of Grotesque makes it seem 10x worse than A Serbian Film. Ugh. I need a shower.

I once listened to a podcast of horror fans watching it and they were pretty mortified and not in a way they liked.

As it happens, "GROTESQUE: UNRATED VERSION" has been banned in U.K. I'm quite delighted and flattered by this most expected reaction from the faraway country, since the film is an honest conscientious work, made sure to upset the so-called moralists.
In Japan the unrated version is available in DVD.
It's a suitable film for couples, so please take advantage and watch it in your quality time.

Koji Shiraishi, Director/ Screenwriter of GROTESQUE

Megan Is Missing has the bones of something quite good but oversteps the mark on four or five occasions in a way that renders the whole thing prurient and sordid. I'd imagine the director would argue that without the shock factor, the message would be no stronger than after-school PSAs in terms of influencing naive teen behaviour irl, and it does apparently carry a recommendation from a guy whose daughter was killed in similar circumstances, but it's not easily defensible. It's unnecessary too - it wouldn't be any less powerful with the more lurid bits taken out.

Turned off Megan is Missing because I could not rid myself of the suspicion throughout that it was made for creeps to masturbate to, and the suspicion became conviction when the last bit of "found footage" was introduced, and life is too short and good horror movies are too enjoyable for that shit. "Torture porn" as a metaphor is bad enough, don't need the real thing.

― Three Word Username, Monday, June 23, 2014 8:23 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink