the lannisters aren't supposed to be subtle, they're supposed to be devious, conniving assholes and everyone in the show knows it
― pratt truss it (dan m), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
i liked the one w the guy in the box.
i absolutely loved this one
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
confession: i was the guy in the box
i didn't like how it ended
cersei especially, can't tell if that's the writing or performance but neither are good
i'm almost through season 4. I go back and forth on cersei; obviously the character intentionally enters every conversation with the goal of cutting the other person down to size and showing off her power by getting the brutal last word. And while that makes sense for the character, it gets so one-note at a certain point! And since that's basically all she does, the monologues about how much she loves her children seem kind of bogus, which I don't think they're supposed to.
― intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
also i think the performance is intentionally a little hammy, like someone who is in over their head but trying to act like they think powerful people act. Just the way she holds her wine glass, for example. But like i said, it gets a little one-note at a certain point.
― intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
yeah her character in particular seems like it was conceived ad hoc. of all the people to be really mad that her daughter was being married off! and the incest? it's treated like this 'ooh nasty' broken taboo w/o any hint at a deeper psyche.
― goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
she's the ICE QUEEN who does DIRTY THINGS and is REALLY MEAN but *writes in column titled 'humanizing element'* REALLY LOVES HER KIDS
― goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things (this is my favourite tv show but all these things get overrated by lots of people) then going to film, comedy, comics and videogames threads saying "Mmmmmmm I love these yummy smelly turds, feed me more turds!" Maybe I'm just as guilty of this but it makes me want to keep a journal on every member who seems to hold vastly different standards for different things (I'm less familiar with Goole's opinions so I have no comparisons right now).
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
I have more sympathy for someone who tears apart a crappy film they sat through for some reason than people who watch 4 seasons of a tv show they hate every second of.
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
idk, if ever there was a show to watch despite yourself
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
goole otm
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things
I wasn't as harsh as goole from the start, but as season 4 becomes an increasing slog for me, those points really do resonate. I think this show obviously has certain strengths (which is why it's so beloved!), but idk, goole's critiques aren't just "this show is boring" or "the characters are dumb" or something
For me, the show always had an strain of cheap cynicism masquerading as "realness," but it becomes overwhelming as the seasons continue, and as the villainous characters become more cardboard and stupid.
― intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
I think I've mentioned this upthread but cersei's irrational(?) love of her children is essentially the paradigm of what the show (books?) thinks of as the potential for chaotic evil over and against the masculine meritocratic codes of honor typified by ned stark. maternal (and maybe Oedipal) love, is dangerous specifically because it is concerned for nothing but itself, and it is what sets the whole crazy ball of the narrative in motion. not sure that reading holds up but it's interesting to think about.
― ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
not for nothing do father figures (or potential ones) kinda die off one by one...
I assume that reading would draw a parallel between Cersei and mama Stark (whose name I can't remember)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
yes and also dany's trying to square the whole "mother of dragons" righteous fury thing with the (coded masculine in this reading) realities of governance. dany trying to be father and mother.
― ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
xp - though the show eliminated a plot involving Mrs. Stark's chaotic "evil" as a result of maternal love; i actually really wanted that to happen.
― sarahell, Saturday, 7 November 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link
who knows what might happen next season?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 November 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
funniest thing on the whole show so far was the kid night watcher killing the redhead barbarian woman and then giving jon snow a sweet li'l nod. thanks buddy, you did it.
― goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
:D
― goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
lol goole "this show is bad"... two weeks later season 4
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
i think i feel okay enough to admit i only watch the show now for the sweet action scenes
― 龜, Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:46 (eight years ago) link
But they are so few and far between.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link
i know... honest im just on my phone in betewen the fight scenes. i have no idea whats going on in the show anymore or how its different from the books
― 龜, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link
When the violent noises start you look up?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link
yuyp
― 龜, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link
Were you watching the Spartacus tv series?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link
Whats that
― 龜, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_(TV_series)
It initially looked like a shoestring budget version of 300, I thought it looked terrible but a lot of people said it was great silly fun and surprisingly engaging (but people said that about 300: Rise Of An Empire and they were wrong).
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link
Spartacus >>>>>> GoT
― I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Cool man i'll check it out
i don't like action scenes or fighting scenes when they get too corny or goofy i like it when they have just the right amount of gravitas which is why i still watch GoT
― 龜, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link
Look forward to lots of manly laughterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2hgQLlUWGo
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link
i like when ppl r slaughtered at weddings
― lag∞n, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
from that pov this is the best show ever
goon you gotta see new jack city
― balls, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12239632_10153329887947734_6491088909217600952_n.jpg
― Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12239632_10153329887947734_6491088909217600952_n.jpg?oh=cd3903df2a63cb8d7faff48b05612fb7&oe=56E6E854
you've got red on you, jon snow
― pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
jeez hbo spoiler tag plz
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
he's just resting
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
Not that it's surprising, but once you start bringing characters back to life, even in a world with thousands of snow zombies, then nothing really matters, does it? I only read the first couple of books, but it sounds like the show skipped/avoided the bizarro Lady Snowbrain or whatever plot, right? Just reading descriptions of that made no sense to me. So however he's brought back, assuming he is, and there is no reason not to assume he will be, then what the hell? Is he going to fight Zombie Mountain? Parley with the snow zombies? Bring all his ample dead family back, too?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
maybe he's just going to "chill"
― Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
zombie Jon Snow will be extremely sexual, calling it now
― polyphonic, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
sexy zombie jon snow is gonna be THE halloween costume for 2016
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
bloodied man buns and leather jerkins all along the bushwick horizon
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah i forgot he was deaded
― kinder, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
HBO: We Did It For the Watch
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link