― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 04:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
I want to believe.
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 05:06 (twenty years ago) link
Where I live is in the official city limits. I need only walk a couple of blocks in one direction before I hit a major, well-traveled thoroughfare, and a few blocks in another direction before I hit a highway. Therefore, one could consider my neighborhood an "urban" one. Yet, all of the residences on my street have large front and back yards, are houses, are pet-friendly, and are largely quiet and separate entities from one another. Plus, we've spotted deer and peacocks around the area and have even had a deer come into our back yard. Therefore, one could also classify my neighborhood a "suburban" one. To complicate matters further, the actual suburbs that border San Antonio were largely rural towns in the not-too-distant past and do still sometimes have that countrified feel to them.
Maybe it's because I live in an area with a lot of growing pains and a heck of a lot of space to move around in (the city as of 2000 had an area of 333 square miles and it just keeps on growing outward). Approximately 50 years ago, the neighborhood I live in now was largely rural itself. But then the hospitals came, and the home builders decided to construct neighborhoods, and demand for housing in the area skyrocketed, and things just snowballed from there.
Hm. How fascinating do you guys find me? Maybe not at all, maybe somewhat, maybe very -- I have no clue. I would like to think I'm an interesting person who is worth getting to know, and I am a product of an environment that is a mixture of "urban" and "suburban", not to mention one that is purely driver-friendly (which is the case for the whole of the city, really). I drive a (small) SUV (a Chevy Blazer, a model of vehicle which existed L-O-N-G before the term "SUV" came into being), was educated on how to drive starting at 17, got my driver's license at 19, have never lived in an apartment before in her life, like gardening, love dogs, and sometimes harbor fantasies of living in London (where some of my fondest life memories took place).
Just stuff to think about, 'tis all.
― Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link
Case in point:http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1981/38405/graphics/Highlands_Ranch1.jpgBy the way that's not my house.
― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Thursday, 26 June 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link
I haven't been there in just over ten years.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 June 2003 01:35 (twenty years ago) link
This is outside of saint louis. The 'Laumier Park' mentioned is a sculpture park.
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I live on an old city street, but we have old, grand bungalos built in the 20s. And some stupid asshole "custom builder" just put up a travesty in an empty lot a few houses down from us. It's a big fucking garage, with 5 bedrooms and a greatroom. Stupid fucks. It doesn't match the neighborhood at all...
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Legacy Village- east side
http://www.legacy-village.com/images/gallery/1.jpg
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link
It would be nice if there were buyers out there who were actually interested in building homes like that instead of the ugly, elbows-to-assholes mcmansions that are invading the suburban countryside and gentrification projects around the country.
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
This statistic kinda blew my mind...
Though its gotten alot harder to meet people in St. Louis: The city lost half of its population due to outmigration between 1950 and 1990. Once the fourth largest city in the country, St. Louis was ranked as the 49th largest after the 2000 census.
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
This is what's been happening in Hinsdale, IL for years now (a few other older suburbs in the chicago area, too). It's completely retarded. People are attracted to the town and willing to pay relatively high real estate prices in large part because---unlike most other cookie-cutter suburbs in the area---there's a lot of neat, differentiated old houses there, and then they move in, tear one down and put up a "modern" gray monstrosity that sticks out like a sore thumb and barely fits in the lot. I just don't get it.
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
The faux-downtowns are everywhere now. There was an article in the _WSJ_ last week quoting a shopper in one of the ones in Dallas -- 'I don't go downtown, there's too much riff-raff down there'. There ya go -- The Urban Experience w/o all those pesky minorities and poor people!!
Legacy Village -- if the sterility doesn't scare you away, the lack of parking will. At least the Crocker Park developers mixed in a parking ramp.
And yes, let's hope some preservationist with deep pockets befriends the StL house.
― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link
i've spotted a few in LA but thankfully not THAT many -- probably more in OC.
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link
The whole house is vaguely reminiscent of my grandparents' friends' house on LI.
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link
/pedant.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Sprawling on the fringes of the cityIn geometric orderAn insulated borderIn between the bright lightsAnd the far unlit unknown
Growing up it all seems so one-sidedOpinions all providedThe future pre-decidedDetached and subdividedIn the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamerOr the misfit so alone
Subdivisions ---In the high school hallsIn the shopping mallsConform or be cast outSubdivisions ---In the basement barsIn the backs of carsBe cool or be cast outAny escape might help to smoothThe unattractive truthBut the suburbs have no charms to sootheThe restless dreams of youth
Drawn like moths we drift into the cityThe timeless old attractionCruising for the actionLit up like a fireflyJust to feel the living night
Some will sell their dreams for small desiresOr lose the race to ratsGet caught in ticking trapsAnd start to dream of somewhereTo relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memoryOf lighted streets on quiet nights...
(cue some guy posting about how he hates reading lyrics, how i'm thirteen, how i wrote these lyrics myself, how this is a serious post, etc......)
― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link
The Chicago suburbs have a lot of really cool houses from that era that I would hate to see torn down, including my grandparents' former house, which my Grandma just sold. The lot is pretty small so I'd be surprised if it gets torn down.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link
If you really want to be pedantic, not according to Wikipedia:
Suburbs are inhabited districts located either on the outer rim of a city or outside the official limits of a city (the term varies from country to country), or the outer elements of a conurbation.
The presence of certain elements (whose definition varies amongst urbanists, but usually refers to some basic services and to the territorial continuity) identifies a suburb as a peripheral populated area with a certain autonomy, where the density of habitation is usually lower than in an inner city area, though state or municipal house building will often cause departures from that organic gradation. Suburbs have typically grown in areas with an abundance of flat land near a large urban zone ...
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― naus (Robert T), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Not the same thing as "the suburbs" I realise =) But here, unless you actually live in "Melbourne, 3000" as your postcode, you live in some suburb or other - some are innercity and old, some are new and sprawled and a long way out...
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link
When I was younger I used to spend my summers with my grandparents on Long Island. I remember them taking me through Levittown once and pointing out the houses that still looked original from the outside. I didn't really appreciate it at the time, but now I realize that they were showing me the genesis of all that I despise about my culture.
― naus (Robert T), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link
the problem i have (if the issues of white flight, sprawl, land use, and inner city/inner ring suburban decay are put aside) is an issue of personal taste. from what i've seen, it really doesn't matter how much money you plow into new construction currently. you end up with basically the same thing (at least from the outside view) as your neighbors. perhaps you have a wine cellar and someone else has a pool or an in-law suite above the garage, but the building styles are pretty indistinguishable.
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link
that, too. the house i largely grew up in was built in the 50s. it had italian marble in the front hall and a sandstone fireplace in the family room, and it was a 3-bedroom split-level in a working/middle class community. you could spend hundreds and hundreds of thousands in a gated development today and not get that.
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link
OK, now TOMBOT can show up and call me prejudiced for thinking the rich guy is a dolt and doesn't deserve what he has.
8Versailles pronounced correctly. No points deducted there.
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Dave, I actually doubt dude is really rich. These ppl all be doing this by putting themselves into tremendous debt. At least from the ones I know buying into suburban monstrosities and middle-of-nowhere "luxury condos" etc.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link