let's all go to GOR!!

nikki

nikki

I actually know several real-life, real-time Gorean households (who basically follow, as much as is possible and practical) the world as created by Norman. It's not for me, (though there are 'free women' in Gor, but the whole thing is soooo not my style. Not even as a Panther Woman). There are some beautiful parts of Gorean life, especially the positions and rituals (think Japanese Tea Ceremony as far as there being serious rules about what is and is not acceptable). The women that I know who are actively real-time Gorean say that they find fulfillment in the giving over of power. In general I have not been nearly as impressed with the real-time Gorean 'masters,' though.

Personally, I cannot see much fulfilling in a relationship where the self is negated and one can only refer to themselves in the third person (it is, however, better than the one male slave that I know who was trained to speak of himself in third person AND as 'it'. *shudder*). I also have a problem with the basic assumption that ALL males are superior to any female. (Give me a break!) AND that any female who is not submissive is just deluding herself and needs to be brought under control and taught to submit.

I can see the rewards of experimenting with Gor as on-line role playing, as it is an interesting process to assume new identities and to explore them in annonymity. However, I do not think that I'd ever be comfortable in a real-time Gorean household (I do like to visit them, every once in a while, to watch the service ... an experienced red-silk slave is a delight to be around! And it's delightful to never have to ask for a refill of a drink and so forth - like old-fashioned maid service, in many ways). But to each their own *shrug*

I think I'd prefer a world where I was pretty much in charge and everyone obeyed and honored and worshipped me. And where I could spend my day reading and eating chocolates and being fanned by naked males and females weilding ostrich-feather fans and so forth. Oh, and where there were lots of orgasms, too.

Surely that's just as much the case in a lot of non-Gorean S&M?

It is in my experience, Caitlin.

...it was the bears, wasn't it? HOTT.

This "thanks" to reading yr thread yesterday, mark s!

women are pleasure slaves
men are men and dress in leather while they eat meat
ruled by a cast of giant insect-priests
exactly on the other side of the sun,
counterbalancing the earth
but HOTTER than earth

Let's all go to GOR!

Sounds great to me!

ph4y i pwn yr subconscious and u know it

god, i think one of these sites was an AwfulLinkoftheDay on SA a few years ago...

...This exotic world of misogyny and male dominance is every science fiction nerd's wet dream; in the world of Gor, women throw themselves all over the nearest 20-sided die rolling scrawny outcast nerd with a broadsword! Gor is so much better than Earth because on Gor you get to fight for virtues and stab evil creatures with glowing magic poles while buying slave women who cater to your every whim and don't turn you down like Betsy Hilman did in the high school junior dance when everybody laughed at you and then you spilled punch on your pants and ran home crying and your mom laughed at you because she was drunk out of her mind and they'll all pay oh yes they will pay...

[...]

To some particularly fragile nutjobs on the Internet, once again the line between fantasy and reality becomes as fuzzy as their last memory of lifting up their 600-pound pale Slim Jim gut and actually viewing their own penis without the aid of a hydraulic lift and a series of NASA cameras. Thousands of dedicated online fuckbags have spent the last decade ironing out the kinks of the kinky "Gor D/s" scene (which either stands for "Gor Dominant / submissive" or "Gor Dumb Shits"), which is some kind of retarded bondage / dominance thing that combines the beauty of 1960's science fiction novels, sex, and Internet chat rooms. I honestly can't think of any mixture more disturbing and worthless than this, except possibly tons of napalm and the local Lee's Summit grade school...

As far as I can tell the chap was hardly very secretive about what he was doing - but then the national press picked up on it. More worrying is how the local press found out about the story - whether it was a police leak.

women sharing is never a facet of patrichal societies AFAIK

drupal tech project tearing itself up over explusion of gorean developer

http://buytaert.net/living-our-values

https://www.drupalconfessions.org/

unjustly neglected thread imo

👍🏽 👍🏽 👍🏽

https://subfictional.com/thoughts-on-recent-drupal-governance-decisions/

this is a weird timeline

protip: the wikipedia page for gorean subculture is nsfw!

a couple months ago i was watching one of the special features on the mst3k dvds talking about the "gor" books. they didn't get to john norman himself, but somebody did an interview with one of his publicists. it was an interesting watch because mostly he seemed to be talking about the evolution of the marketing of norman's works - in the '90s, the marketing played up the bdsm-y aspects but since then they've moved towards playing up the sword and sorcery thing.

back in my usenet days, goreanism seemed to be at its peak, although i guess second life had a lot of them- i never touched second life. my memory of those times, hanging out in those subcultures, was that goreans got sort of a gruding tolerance from bdsm people. that gor was stupid, but that they weren't exactly in a position to be judging other people on the acceptability of their fetishes.

you know, i'm still not. the scummiest folks in the bdsm scene i knew weren't goreans. i personally, in the process of trying to deal with my depression, have written fiction that is far more offensive and disturbing than anything john norman, whose chief fault is his lack of imagination, has come up with. nobody will ever read any of it while i am still alive. i guess i should just delete everything i've written now in case any of it gets out and gets hung over my head. i'm used to that sort of shit. i've been dealing with it at least high school. do what we say or we'll let you know what you're REALLY like, and god knows twenty, twenty-five years ago liking the sort of things i liked made me a certified Sick Fuck(TM).

Any reason you don't want to delete it all?

Ebooks gave Norman's career a second life.
There's a very eccentric interview with Norman here, he touches on the Gorean communities.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5783833/john-norman-the-philosopher-who-created-the-barbaric-world-of-gor

Molly Tanzer and Silvia Moreno Garcia did humorous articles about the books and films, I could have sworn there was more.
http://www.pornokitsch.com/2016/06/readers-of-gor-tarnsman-of-gor.html
http://www.pornokitsch.com/2016/07/readers-of-gor-outlaw-of-gor.html