S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

Jack Smith's Normal Love is playing downtown tonight... YT version is unwatchably poor quality, but you can get an idea of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI9OgICJHk

so there's this 'collective' of queerish/pansexual American-European filmmakers who are getting screened in NY this week... Fort Buchanan is pretty good/wack/like a Fassbinder-meets-Lifetime soap; with Palaces of Pity it might help to know more Portuguese history than I do. A History of Mutual Respect is the artiest "bro" satire you may ever see...

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-friends-with-benefits

http://www.filmcomment.com/article/gabriel-abrantes-daniel-schmidt-benjamin-crotty-alexander-carver/

strangely missing from thread: Joao Pedro Rodrigues. Along with Guiraudie's new one, seeing JPR's The Ornithologist at NYFF tonight. Strand has snapped it up.

http://variety.com/2016/film/global/joao-rodrigues-the-orinthologist-strand-releasing-1201883663/

Andre Téchiné's Being 17 was overwhelming.

I liked it as well, though perhaps not as much as you. Found it good, but rather conventionally made.

I've seen two other arty gay films. Alain Guiraudie's followup to Stranger by the Lake, Staying Vertical, is unfortunately a big disappointment in my view. Luckily Joao Pedro Rodrigues' The Ornithologist is everything Staying Vertical should have been, a mishmash of landscapes, myths, times, and places, with identity a big factor, and a lovely sex scene on a sunny beach.

Lionel Soukaz in NYC

http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/series/46748

Being 17 on DVD/streaming at Netflix.

^I liked it fine, probably AT's best since The Witnesses, but didn't love it. The dad in the military, we all saw where that was going from the first, yes? It wasn't at all obvious, or even plausible, that Thomas reciprocated Damien's feelings til well into the last act though.

Excellent performance by Corentin Fila as Thomas, also strikingly beautiful. (The kid who played Damien was jug-eared enough to be little Serge Gainsbourg in that biopic a few years back.)

Damien had been eyeing him Thomas since the first frame; it's hard to separate condescension from desire, especially at that age. Also, living in close quarters exacerbated it, which is why I don't think their attraction is a particularly deep one. Techine is subtle enough to suggest the relationship, born of conflict and breathing the same air, will dissolve soon enough. With his usual deft, glancing touch, he flirts with the idea that Thomas could have easily gone for Damien's mother had she confessed and tried to kiss him like Damien did.

As for the dad? He was marked for death like partners in cop films.

him

I've got a list

misread thread title as 'gay movies of anitiquity'

i.e. The Women

I don't get My Own Private Idaho. There, I said it.

Falling houses, Henry IV Pt 1, River Phoenix, Udo Kier lip syncing -- what's not to get?

great list, but you wrote "rainer maria fassbinder" twice

where is Fight Club?

I'm assuming the reason it isn't on there is because it sucks.

musta been suckin' good every time I saw it

anyone seen 4 Days in France?

When it opened here a few months ago, the reviews were sufficiently lukewarm that I decided to wait.

I assumed this thread revive was for Guadagino's Dolan quote

Which was absolutely delicious.

like a peach is delicious?

here's the quote for those who don't know:

I’m a bit suspicious of Xavier Dolan, for one reason: he does too many films. I do not believe in hyperactivity. I like the idea of reflection,” he told Purple Diary. “I think ‘Mommy,’ for instance, is a typical post-Almodóvar female drama, shot in the clever, intelligent way of today, with an awareness of the iPhone generation. Is it a gimmick having to do with the tool? Or does the tool affect the way the images are put together? I was very upset when ‘Mommy’ — what a title! — was awarded the Jury Prize in Cannes. It basically contradicted Godard’s lesson that such an orgy of images is the end of language and then was rewarded for being an orgy of images.”

Apparently the quote(s) are 2 years old? xp

https://theplaylist.net/luca-guadagnino-xavier-dolan-20171004/

Both of them have made some very annoying films, tho LG nothing as bad as Mommy.

(I should say, the last 2 Guadagnino films, as that's all i've seen, til 6pm)

and Guadagnino hasn't made a film as good as Heartbeats.

There's no way that's possible.

but then I only feel the need to defend the good 50-60% of Laurence Anyways

I'll concede ethat no Dolan film has a scene as necessary as Matthias Schoenaerts and Tilda Swinton writhing in mud.

Heartbeats was Reality Bites with slightly better music.

Yup

The title and cast of his next movie give me the fear

Heartbeats was Reality Bites with slightly better music.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

And script. And manflesh.

I liked Mommy fine and the play adaptation I...wouldn't recommend to skeptics.

If you distrust people who make too many movies surely you shouldn't be quoting Godard? Two to three a year during his 60's prime!

Godard's career is its own special case.

is this for nu movies only? Bcz I just watched Fox and His Friends and wowwww

It certainly looked better after its Criterion restoration.

I just caught up with it a few months ago as well, and I second your "wowwww."

relentlessly cruel. reminded me of "Dancer in the Dark" and "Funny Games"

except by a great filmmaker.

Not bothering to post a link that'll get clicks, but J3ffr3y W3lls' singularly idiotic review of 120 Beats Per Minute is a thing of blunder:

As I noted last May, Robin Campillo‘s BPM (Beats Per Minute) (The Orchard, 10.20) is an impassioned, oppressively didactic period film (i.e., early ’90s) about Parisian ACT UP members battling bureaucratic indifference and/or foot-dragging in the battle against AIDS. It’s a tough, well-made, humanist thumbs-upper, but at the same time the relentless political-talking-points dialogue gradually numbs you out, and then drains you of your will to live.

At the risk of sounding insensitive or uncaring, Campillo’s hammer-focus on the French medical establishment’s slow-to-act response to the AIDS scourge is airless — it doesn’t breathe. BPM is a 144-minute gay agenda movie that says the right things, feels the right things and clobbers you over the head with its social-activist compassion and sense of life-or-death urgency. I for one staggered out of the Grand Lumiere theatre when it ended, gasping for breath and overjoyed that the lecture had finally ended.

I like my gay movies to feel swoony and speak softly — I want them to feel mellow and cultured and graced with the aroma of fine wine, fresh peaches and tall grass on a warm summer’s day. No offense but BPM is on the other side of the canyon, enraged and odorous and generally obnoxious. Thanks but no thanks.

What a story!

JW badly needs an axe to the cranium

I think the only movies I've seen from the last like decade are Weekend and Stranger by the Lake. What are 5 top-tier canonical definitive important gay movies of arty qualities from the last decade that I should watch? Is God's Own Country one of them?

yes, it is.

BPM (Beats Per Minute)
anything by Guiraudie
The Ornithologist

I'm v keen to see The Ornithologist because of how beautiful the actor is. It looks like it owes a lot to Joe though.

Blue is the Warmest Colour, From Afar, Heartstone, The Ornithologist, Carol

I'm not sure how much The Ornithologist owes to Joe, Joao Pedro Rodrigues made the kinda similar O Fantasma back in 2000.

God's Own Country is NOT very arty, it's like a '70s Ken Loach film w/ a rather sentimental (but good) gay romance added