Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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What happened to his eyes? Only four fingers on each hand? Clearly a reptoid!

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Here's hoping pt 3 of this thread will be titled Nippled America

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 6 December 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

This is so imcomprehensible, from http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/what-will-it-take-to-stop-donald-trump

“I like the way he speaks,” said Sandra Murray of Dubuque, Iowa. “He speaks the truth, he speaks what people need to hear. He may be a little bold but you can’t sugar-coat things anymore. This country is a huge mess and we need to get out of this and honestly he could be the man to do it.”

What part of this country is a huge mess? Other than growing economic inequality and police departments repeatedly proving they can't be trusted, what is a huge mess? What is she thinking of? The mind boggles.

Also, looking at the photos in that story reminded me of everything I hated about growing up in the south and how I am so happy now that I'm safely ensconced away from it. The last time I had that feeling of being around a herd of hateful, self-identified "Christian" white people was when I wound up at Union Station during the 2nd Bush inauguration. Vomit.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

“Oh, I wish I had big nuts like him,” said Dino Rossi of Newton, Massachusetts.

j., Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link

The cable news networks escalate into a crisis every story that isn't about fluffy bunnies or adorable children, for the same reasons that television weather forecasters hype every winter storm as a potential catastrophe and fire-and-brimstone preachers tell you your sins are blacker than Satan's heart and if you don't hurl yourself before the seat of mercy God will cast you into the deepest pit of hell. Anyone who watched a steady diet of that bumpf might think that the USA is teetering on the very brink of the apocalypse.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

"Telling it like it is" is just dog whistle for "being an irascible xenophobic pick like good men used to be"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

Lots of words in that tune.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

Clinton also focused on the need to combat the Islamic State on the Internet, pushing for help from the private sector to push back against the group’s robust propaganda machine. “We’re going to need help from Facebook and from YouTube and from Twitter,” she said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hillary-clinton-isil-terror-obama-216466

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

Xxxpost *prick

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

What part of this country is a huge mess? Other than growing economic inequality and police departments repeatedly proving they can't be trusted, what is a huge mess? What is she thinking of? The mind boggles.

I don't think that's really fair. Lots of our state pension systems are catastrophically underfunded, and that is a huge mess. And there's a massive painkiller addiction problem concentrated in the places where Trump voters live and ILXers don't.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

I think he's pointing out her use of typically dispensed vagueries

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

The young woman holding the "The Silent Majority stands with Trump" sign looks exactly like Chelsea Clinton #hillarymole #justsayin

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

i still think Hillary is Nixon and Trump is like Wallace with money

https://jeffpelline.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/3372-wallace-flyer-1.jpg

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

morbs otm

stay presst harsh fellow (m bison), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

What part of this country is a huge mess?

Have you noticed the color of our president's skin? Sandra Murray of Dubuque, Iowa, has.

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

“We’re going to need help from Facebook and from YouTube and from Twitter,” she said.

Yes, I am really looking forward to working for people who have those kinds of ideas

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

the thing is, Wallace actually DID a lot for the poor if you factor that pesky segregation thing out of it.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

altho trump doesnt play up economic populism to the same degree wallace did

xp

stay presst harsh fellow (m bison), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

trump's economic agenda is basically "i will help keep american jobs away from mexicans and china" which is part and parcel of his turbo white supremacy platform

stay presst harsh fellow (m bison), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

the thing is, Wallace actually DID a lot for the poor if you factor that pesky segregation thing out of it.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:44 PM

yeah, Wallace represented the end of the New Deal's dependence on Dixiecrat progressives.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

Washington Monthly's been running a series if articles drawing similar comparisons between 1972 and 2016 races.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link

in an otherwise decent look at the cruz vs rubio thing, this was weird:


With help from an allied group that is airing television ads in Iowa, Mr. Rubio is seeking to raise doubts on the right about Mr. Cruz’s toughness on national security — a potentially fatal vulnerability, should Mr. Rubio succeed, amid heightened concerns about terrorism. More quietly, he is trying to muddy the perception that Mr. Cruz is a hard-liner on immigration, asserting that Mr. Cruz supports “legalizing people that are in this country illegally.

Their stances on core policy issues are actually quite similar: Each toes the conservative line on taxes, abortion and guns. But they are making the most of where they diverge: Mr. Rubio’s more moderate posture on immigration, and Mr. Cruz’s effort to chart a middle course on national security between hawks like Mr. Rubio and more libertarian-minded Republicans like Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 December 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link

sorry, meant to put the

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between those paragraphs

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 December 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link

I don't know if anybody posted this already--just caught up with it this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYlIU5R88eY

Awkward. Supposedly the first time this has come up, probably not the last.

clemenza, Monday, 7 December 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

Her answer was smooth enough that she was obviously prepared for the possibility.

clemenza, Monday, 7 December 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

She's had years of rehearsal, remember.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 December 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link

Yeah...I guess she got the same question running for the Senate and in '08--it's just the first instance I've seen of it.

clemenza, Monday, 7 December 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

what was that? video down.

global tetrahedron, Monday, 7 December 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

i saw a Ben Carson voter irl. out where my folks live in suburban/rural GA the next door neighbor has a bunch of his signs in her front lawn, alongside signs that say REVIVE and INSPIRE. of course she is a heavily medicated evangelist known for standing in the middle of the road (like on the yellow line) in her pajamas just in the middle of the day.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 December 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

cruz out in front in iowa, according to latest monmouth poll

cruz: 24
trump: 19
rubio: 17
fartson: 13

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 December 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

wow

goole, Monday, 7 December 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

I would totally lik emore insight into what parts of the country those on the right think are a huge mess, or any more of a mess than they usually are. I understand worries over terrorism, ok, gotcha. The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't? I'd like to know. I know that there are likely many who have just dropped out of the job hunt entirely. Maybe they're talking about that. Are people's taxes higher than they used to be? Mine are but only because I make twice as much money as I used to. Healthcare is still rightly fucked for lots of people even with obamacare...what else?

akm, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't?

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2014/10/Wage_stagnation.png

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it".

Aimless, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

divide and conquer

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 December 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

my economy is not fucking back, and never will be.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 December 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

mine never went away

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 7 December 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

the economy in certain sectors is fucked and those jobs are not coming back, true. I don't know what morbs does for a living.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

but that also has little to nothing to do with whose in office, often, IMO.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

who is in office. we need an edit feature

akm, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

We've got a Carson supporter on our street, a sign in the yard that says, "Run! Ben! Run!"

pplains, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

and dont' stop til yer in Mexico

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

oh no. xp

welltris (crüt), Monday, 7 December 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

"When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it"."

^pretty much this 94/7. oh, and blackety-black black black president with his black feet on the Oval Office desk.

big fat rascal (will), Monday, 7 December 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

guys - www.jebbush.com

balls, Monday, 7 December 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

lol

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Monday, 7 December 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

lol

goole, Monday, 7 December 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

lol

welltris (crüt), Monday, 7 December 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link


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