Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

wow

I would totally lik emore insight into what parts of the country those on the right think are a huge mess, or any more of a mess than they usually are. I understand worries over terrorism, ok, gotcha. The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't? I'd like to know. I know that there are likely many who have just dropped out of the job hunt entirely. Maybe they're talking about that. Are people's taxes higher than they used to be? Mine are but only because I make twice as much money as I used to. Healthcare is still rightly fucked for lots of people even with obamacare...what else?

The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't?

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2014/10/Wage_stagnation.png

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it".

divide and conquer

my economy is not fucking back, and never will be.

mine never went away

the economy in certain sectors is fucked and those jobs are not coming back, true. I don't know what morbs does for a living.

but that also has little to nothing to do with whose in office, often, IMO.

who is in office. we need an edit feature

We've got a Carson supporter on our street, a sign in the yard that says, "Run! Ben! Run!"

and dont' stop til yer in Mexico

oh no. xp

"When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it"."

^pretty much this 94/7. oh, and blackety-black black black president with his black feet on the Oval Office desk.

dumbth

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-muslim-sports-heroes-144634620.html

guys - www.jebbush.com

lol

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if/when rubio doesn't win iowa or new hampshire or south carolina is he then officially 'in trouble' or is he still the 'well eventually it'll be him right? right?' plausible default?

i just looked into it and since the inception of iowa-new hampshire-south carolina sequence (which is admittedly not that long, iowa is 76 and south carolina is 80 for gop and 88 for dems) nobody has won the nomination for either party w/o winning one of those three.

xposts Wow @ jebbush.com. Trump and Jeb! should be a sitcom.

trump is bronson pinchot of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbnLYROCj8

I feel like Bush should a) shut down his campaign and b) commit ritual suicide. It's just pathetic at this point.

how did he let that happen? that's amazing

jeb is obviously the cozzin larry in that relationship

i mean it's still early but it's probably unlikely rubio wins iowa. and i can't see south carolina saving him nor for that matter the sec primary and if he hasn't been competitive w/ delegates by that point it probably too late for him. he's polling ok in new hampshire, second to trump but only barely ahead of cruz (12% vs 10.8%), and that's w/ him barely having visited new hampshire.

apparently a ton of jebbush sites have been parked on for years. jeb didn't want to pony up the $250k they were asking (apparently they'd had it since 1997!), and trump being the master negotiator was able to get them down to $250k.

I have previously asserted that Jeb! doesn't really actually want to be running for president (it's a legacy thing...if his dad and brother had previously run a family-owned paint shop, he'd give it a go as well) and, as supported by evidence such as his hijacked website, I will continue to stand behind this assertion.

it's never been his website, tho

Apparently some FOX dude called Obama a pussy on air lol

GOP has to boil down to rubio and cruz, right? I think it'll go all the way through the primaries though. it'll be hysterical to see if trump gets a majority of delegates but they still refuse to nominate him.

I can't imagine Trump winning Iowa tbh (NH seems more likely)... but what Trump looks like after a defeat is hard to gauge

It's gonna have to be Rubio, ultimately. He's the only one that doesn't come off as profoundly stupid/a hapless nebbish/viscerally horrifying.

plenty of ways to get delegates that aren't related to primary/caucus votes

i am doubtful DT gets anywhere near 50% in any single primary

plenty of ways to get delegates that aren't related to primary/caucus votes

all of which I can't really imagine Trump succeeding at - dude's a populist not an apparatchik, so he either wins primaries/caucuses or its over

yeah i wasn't arguing that was a way for the Howling Rug to sneak in

rubio comes off plenty hapless to me

if anyone's gonna exploit non-primary/caucus delegate commitments it's gonna be Cruz

if a state's Repubs does give Big T 50% or more, i think it should be called "buying the pink rug"

nh went for buchanan twice so i can totally see trump taking it. evangelicals a bigger factor in iowa (ask jimmy carter) which is probably one reason cruz has been able to pick up the carson voters.

trump doesn't have to take 50% of contested delegates fwiw though i do think if he doesn't have the majority and there's someone near him (esp if it's rubio) the superdelegates will throw it to someone/anyone else. good lord imagine the fallout and the carnage.

lookin forward to it tbh

Trump is so hated by the GOP they'd find a way to ratfuck him out of the nom but he ain't gonna win it anyway. anomalies be damned.

At a friend's housewarming party on Saturday I hung out with a longtime bro who works for HRC's campaign. According to their "numbers," only Rubio worries them a bit.

I reminded my friend, who unlike me was born in Cuba, that Rubio will be hated by every other Spanish-speaking minority.

i'm guessing Sanders just drew a knowing chuckle

he doesn't do "chuckles"

*bass solo*
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Fs--QsNxXhZS--%2Fc_scale%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_80%2Cw_800%2F18sjq33uxink6jpg.jpg&f=1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVpwUqxVAAAv-kZ.jpg

still haven't had a moment to ask a Trump supporter when they felt America was last truly great, and whether this greatness has slowly bled off or if there was a singular moment of transition