which would depress turnout, hurt downticket candidates etc.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
does he ever actually debate in debates, or just do his boastful grandstanding?
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
open outrageous, the media freaks, add 'nuance', the media wonders why it hasn't hurt him
the thing that's funny about this is that it involves continuing to pretend that trump supporters are some free-floating cloud of general republicans. how strange it is that republicans aren't turning on him after all these horrible statements! well, republicans generally are turning on him! as noted, he's hated by as many republicans as like him, and i suspect the hate-number is only going up. the analysis refuses to admit this hard-core of Aggrieved-Americans who have been prepared to vote for Trump no matter what since june or july, who are excited about him because of all the crazy stuff he says and especially anything that treats stigmatizing and casting out racial Others as "common sense." that's his appeal, so wondering why him doing more of it isn't hurting him with that group is like...umm... duh? the useful story to track here is not "are trump's first-choice numbers going down?" but "are trump's absolutely-not-that-guy numbers going up?"
aimless is right about down-ticket candidates in the unlikely trump third-party scenario. it could help republicans as much as hurt them, though there is certainly some possibility that trump's die-hards really WANT to walk in and vote only for him, to 'send a message' to all the RINOs. i think there would have to be a real campaign of urging them to do this, though.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
just do his boastful grandstanding
this is all any of them do, for the most part
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
you've got me there
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Aimless re: "it might even suppress democratic voter turnout." Now THAT scares me in a way I hadn't thought to be scared before. Dems thinking hey, it's in the bag, why bother.
Or, if the nominee is Hillary and she appears to be on an easy path to victory, perhaps diehard Bern-feelers would feel free to write Sanders in. I know of some Nader supporters who did so in ought-four, believing that if Gore was safe in their state, they might as well vote their consciences.
Of course that was, and is, their right to do so. However I continue to believe that smacking down the current right-wing looniness is the priority.
― give 'em helecaster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Hillary and she appears to be on an easy path to victory
she will not have an easy path, this is gonna be bloodsport
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Clinton-Sanders race isn't going to get any traction in this thread until 3 days before New Hampshire, right?
I had forgotten WFP is a multi-state entity.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
has a lot of traction here, I see a lot more Sanders signs than Clinton ones, even if she's polling higher
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
the NYC public advocate (someone i was happy to vote for) is grumping about the Sanders endorsement
http://observer.com/2015/12/top-working-families-party-pol-is-not-happy-they-just-backed-bernie-sanders/
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/12/08/poll-trump-cruz-rubio-clinton-sanders/76948760/
― balls, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
the blustery billionaire businessman
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsW/18187-1293.gif
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
@SenTedCruzOur strategy with radical Islamic terrorism should be very simple. We win. They lose.
it's catching
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
something something greyzone
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
@realDonaldTrumpA new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran as an independent.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
unlike religious and ethnic minorities, trump supporters willingly put his mark on their homes and vehicles, allowing us to give them a wide berth
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
That Cruz post is Carson-level. Or second-grade-level, which is basically the same. "Every American should have a pony. Why? Because ponies are nice. Case closed."
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
a pony in every stable
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
@SenTedCruzOur strategy with radical Islamic terrorism should be very simple. We win. They lose
^^ he's plagiarizing Reagan.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-here-s-my-strategy-on-the-cold-war-we-win-they-lose-ronald-reagan-47-55-22.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
Carson, a seven-year-old, an Alzheimer's sufferer. What's the diff?
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link
My strategy with Putin: I'm rubber, you're glue.
― give 'em helecaster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
I still wonder how many Trump supporters are Trump voters. I think a statistically significant number of them are fans of Donald Trump, the guy from TV, and go to his rallies in the same spirit one might attend a Nickelback concert.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
God Bless the Goddamned Onion: http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-gives-muslim-fence-about-radicalizing-just-p-51999
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah how trump support translates to trump votes is the big question. i do wonder if he's tapping into this segment of the population that didn't bother to vote cuz 'they're all the same' or whatever and now someone's finally saying what needs to be said
― balls, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
it's been funny seeing some of the shitheads that a couple of weeks ago were saying 'we will not accept syrian refugees unless maybe they're christians (not even orphans - it's in the blood!)' now backpeddling and going 'o that was totally different from what trump is saying'
― balls, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:28 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Probably also people that have waited their entire lives for a chance to vote against Hillary Clinton.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
well they can do that without voting for trump though
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, December 8, 2015
I know these people!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
uh well that's why i voted for Obama in the 2008 NY primary and for any minor-party lefty in her Senate races
a charmed life but hoping maybe just once more and not twice
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
kinda reassuring to see "Trump is a fascist" entering mainstream political lexicon
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
From what I heard on the radio, Cruz was the one prominent Republican who was basically "None of my business" with regards to Trump today. While I realize a lot of the condemnation is theatrical and purely out of self-interest, I'm glad that was Cruz's reaction--that will surely be a problem for him at some point (i.e., his path to the nomination is different than Trump's, and what Trump is able to glide past won't necessarily help him).
I find Cruz creepier and smarmier than anyone involved in this.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link
Cruz is definitely positioning himself as the "sane" choice once Trump flames out
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link
hard to say who the GOP Establishment hates more though, him or Trump
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
Okay, he did say this: "I do not agree with his proposals. I do not think it is the right solution. The right solution I believe is the legislation that I've introduced."
I guess that's okay. But then, hoping to thread the needle and weasel up the middle: "I recognize that a great many folks in the media would prefer that anybody running for president engage as an ongoing theater critic criticizing the proposals of others. I do not believe the world needs my voice added to that chorus of critics."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/ted-cruz-donald-trump-disagreed/index.html
― clemenza, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/15/50/980x490/landscape-1449585483-jebby.jpg
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
^Hopefully this was taken mere second before Jeb! began his Church Lady impression
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
Jeb... i guess... or whatever you want really it's your call.
xp
― INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
jeb's eyes: so flat, blank.
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
faint ghost of oscar the grouch there
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sYRxFrhl--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/hhta5biswz48ky314z8w.jpg
― nomar, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
hahaha
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link
"Are you there, God? It's me, Jeb! No, no, not Junior, nor Poppy..."
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link
is that Jeb being lowered into his grave
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link
the ghost of bushes past
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link
http://hyperbole.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jimmy-stewart-vertigo.jpg
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
he chose
poorly
― nomar, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
I really think Trump or Cruz will cause massive downticket damage. You'll get the infamous 27% but "moderates" / "right-leaning independents" will end up staying home - no amount of nose pinching or this so-callled "waiting their whole lives to vote against Hillary" impulse is going to get them to the polls for those dudes.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link
I definitely fear Cruz more than Trump.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link
I suspect in the case of a third party run by Trump you'll get a lot of aggrieved and unhelpful complaining from him that the Republicans are stupid sissy men (particularly if they lose their minds and pick Bush). If you're looking for monetisation, perhaps "other than these very good friends of mine".
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link