Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

Hillary and she appears to be on an easy path to victory

she will not have an easy path, this is gonna be bloodsport

Clinton-Sanders race isn't going to get any traction in this thread until 3 days before New Hampshire, right?

I had forgotten WFP is a multi-state entity.

has a lot of traction here, I see a lot more Sanders signs than Clinton ones, even if she's polling higher

the NYC public advocate (someone i was happy to vote for) is grumping about the Sanders endorsement

http://observer.com/2015/12/top-working-families-party-pol-is-not-happy-they-just-backed-bernie-sanders/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/12/08/poll-trump-cruz-rubio-clinton-sanders/76948760/

the blustery billionaire businessman

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsW/18187-1293.gif

@SenTedCruz
Our strategy with radical Islamic terrorism should be very simple. We win. They lose.

it's catching

something something greyzone

@realDonaldTrump
A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran as an independent.

unlike religious and ethnic minorities, trump supporters willingly put his mark on their homes and vehicles, allowing us to give them a wide berth

That Cruz post is Carson-level. Or second-grade-level, which is basically the same. "Every American should have a pony. Why? Because ponies are nice. Case closed."

a pony in every stable

@SenTedCruz
Our strategy with radical Islamic terrorism should be very simple. We win. They lose

^^ he's plagiarizing Reagan.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-here-s-my-strategy-on-the-cold-war-we-win-they-lose-ronald-reagan-47-55-22.jpg

Carson, a seven-year-old, an Alzheimer's sufferer. What's the diff?

My strategy with Putin: I'm rubber, you're glue.

I still wonder how many Trump supporters are Trump voters. I think a statistically significant number of them are fans of Donald Trump, the guy from TV, and go to his rallies in the same spirit one might attend a Nickelback concert.

God Bless the Goddamned Onion: http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-gives-muslim-fence-about-radicalizing-just-p-51999

yeah how trump support translates to trump votes is the big question. i do wonder if he's tapping into this segment of the population that didn't bother to vote cuz 'they're all the same' or whatever and now someone's finally saying what needs to be said

it's been funny seeing some of the shitheads that a couple of weeks ago were saying 'we will not accept syrian refugees unless maybe they're christians (not even orphans - it's in the blood!)' now backpeddling and going 'o that was totally different from what trump is saying'

I still wonder how many Trump supporters are Trump voters. I think a statistically significant number of them are fans of Donald Trump, the guy from TV, and go to his rallies in the same spirit one might attend a Nickelback concert.

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:28 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Probably also people that have waited their entire lives for a chance to vote against Hillary Clinton.

well they can do that without voting for trump though

Probably also people that have waited their entire lives for a chance to vote against Hillary Clinton.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, December 8, 2015

I know these people!

uh well that's why i voted for Obama in the 2008 NY primary and for any minor-party lefty in her Senate races

a charmed life but hoping maybe just once more and not twice

kinda reassuring to see "Trump is a fascist" entering mainstream political lexicon

From what I heard on the radio, Cruz was the one prominent Republican who was basically "None of my business" with regards to Trump today. While I realize a lot of the condemnation is theatrical and purely out of self-interest, I'm glad that was Cruz's reaction--that will surely be a problem for him at some point (i.e., his path to the nomination is different than Trump's, and what Trump is able to glide past won't necessarily help him).

I find Cruz creepier and smarmier than anyone involved in this.

Cruz is definitely positioning himself as the "sane" choice once Trump flames out

hard to say who the GOP Establishment hates more though, him or Trump

Okay, he did say this: "I do not agree with his proposals. I do not think it is the right solution. The right solution I believe is the legislation that I've introduced."

I guess that's okay. But then, hoping to thread the needle and weasel up the middle: "I recognize that a great many folks in the media would prefer that anybody running for president engage as an ongoing theater critic criticizing the proposals of others. I do not believe the world needs my voice added to that chorus of critics."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/ted-cruz-donald-trump-disagreed/index.html

http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/15/50/980x490/landscape-1449585483-jebby.jpg

^Hopefully this was taken mere second before Jeb! began his Church Lady impression

Jeb... i guess... or whatever you want really it's your call.

xp

jeb's eyes: so flat, blank.

faint ghost of oscar the grouch there

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sYRxFrhl--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/hhta5biswz48ky314z8w.jpg

hahaha

"Are you there, God? It's me, Jeb! No, no, not Junior, nor Poppy..."

is that Jeb being lowered into his grave

the ghost of bushes past

http://hyperbole.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jimmy-stewart-vertigo.jpg

he chose

poorly

I really think Trump or Cruz will cause massive downticket damage. You'll get the infamous 27% but "moderates" / "right-leaning independents" will end up staying home - no amount of nose pinching or this so-callled "waiting their whole lives to vote against Hillary" impulse is going to get them to the polls for those dudes.

I definitely fear Cruz more than Trump.

I suspect in the case of a third party run by Trump you'll get a lot of aggrieved and unhelpful complaining from him that the Republicans are stupid sissy men (particularly if they lose their minds and pick Bush). If you're looking for monetisation, perhaps "other than these very good friends of mine".

"Another Republican strategist in Ohio replied to an email asking about Mr. Trump’s effect in the state by sending a link to a Wikipedia page on the 1964 congressional elections, when Barry Goldwater’s presence atop the Republican ticket led the party to lose 36 House seats."

I came across a tidbit that Goldwater's wife Susan was from my hometown and then found out that Susan Goldwater was the founder of Planned Parenthood in Arizona. Considering the politics of the past few months, I found this to be an interesting fact.

barry was prochoice and managed to arrange an abortion for his daughter when they were still illegal. abortion politics don't really line up along party lines until the 80s when the christian coalition really becomes a force. i'm not sure it really became a liability to be pro-life as a democrat until the 90s.

You will still see talking heads mention Goldwater as a father of the modern conservative movement, but this side of his politics seems to be completely forgotten now.

I interviewed Rob Halford of Judas Priest once - he lives in Phoenix, and has served as Grand Marshal of the city's Gay Pride Parade in the past - and he mentioned that Goldwater was his neighbor for quite a while and that they got along very well.

http://i.imgur.com/D5EZ98g.jpg

I would love to see this as a moment where Trump is lambasting Jeb! off-screen, tearing him apart for being the one Bush who lost in '94, for losing Elian and letting Teri die, for not being able to say whether he would approve the war in Iraq now or not....

ZOOM IN REAL QUICK into the pupil of Jeb!'s eye and ZOOM OUT REAL QUICK, and he's still standing there with the same expression - except it's 1970, he's chubby with long hair, and it's Dubya who's offscreen, tearing him apart with swagger about how he fucked up at Yale, disappointed Poppy by getting caught with weed, and Mom's still not sure about this Mexican chick he's just ~~so in love~~ with, right Jebb? Right? Voices start getting echo-y....

Trump coyly tweeting independent-run poll numbers

(which suggest he might get 10% in November)