Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

weren't you the guy who said nathan for you was bad for your soul

https://twitter.com/_FloridaMan/status/676432647493722114/photo/1

^^^let's do our part here guys

Sunday Times op section featured a piece on lying by the editor of Politifact, and this chart:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWJGiPNVAAA2H8w.png

Martin O'Malley, King oh Half-Truths

grrr "of"

Are Bill, Biden, Cheney and Obama on there for ... scale?

that chart is incredibly telling, isn't it?

telling of the liberal lamestream media's bias against conservatives, yes

haha exactly

Breitbart's version of that chart is exactly the same with the numbers reversed

did politifart rate clinton on #BENGHAZI ?!?!

GOP base: "lie to me"

what about every time Sanders and Clinton have LIED about climate change being real?!?

I've read many a Politifact analysis of various political statements, where they lay out their cases for rating them one way or another, and I can't say I've been overly impressed at the reasoning behind their ratings. Sometimes they nitpick over very small errors and at other times they seem awfully lenient over large misstaements. However, when they say "Pants on Fire" it is always an accurate assessment.

Poltifact's both-sides-do-it equivalence is annoying as hell

it truly is. and that's why that chart is so damning (my smartass comments aside). i'm sure conservatives would just blow it off as liberal media bias without even realizing that if anything it's probably TOO forgiving

I have no exp with Politifact, but this particular NYT piece wasn't both-sides-do-it so much as all-pols-lie (which is true, that's their job).

which debate was it, maybe the CNBC one, where each of the GOP candidates referenced a single organization that assessed their budget plans? and of course, each candidate's budget was deemed to be an enormous driver of growth and neverending prosperity and DOUBLEFUCKINGDIGITS annual GDP increases? if memory serves, the organization they all referenced was part of the fucking Heritage foundation. and no one called them out on it, certainly not the debate moderators. god that was bullshit. i'm trying to imagine the reaction to sanders or clinton citing a positive evaluation of their budget plans from MoveOn.org

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/14/rahm_emmanuels_catastrophic_downfall_why_it_should_be_a_much_bigger_deal_for_hillary_clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/13/politifact-partnering-nbc-news-2016-election/

x-post --Chuck Todd will now feel emboldened to continue with the both-sides-do-it equivalence in the same manner

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/14/can-you-justify-these-lies

Jeb is not excited about administering this proctology exam
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/15/us/15bushattack-web/15bushattack-web-master675.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q0dVtT7.jpg

lol Pataki

31.4 Trump 16.3 Cruz 13.3 Rubio 12.6 Carson

60% of the Republican party prefers one of Trump, Cruz or Carson.

cruz and rubio's gains have come at the expense of carson, while trump keeps flaming out

of course, to counter that you 538's usual "why are you reading an article on this website right now? none of this matters!" article

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/polls-suggest-trump-will-win-between-8-percent-and-64-percent-of-the-vote/

(which, to be fair, is probably right. it's just funny that all of their content has to come with the caveat that you shouldn't be reading their content)

31.4 Trump 16.3 Cruz 13.3 Rubio 12.6 Carson

60% of the Republican party prefers one of Trump, Cruz or Carson.

my go-to crazy crew is trump/cruz/carson/fiorina. i view all four of them as the cream of the bonkers crop. give me a second and i'll update my patented crazy crew aggregation chart, based off of RCP's data

come on angry republicans take a step back and look at that graph dr. morbius posted, you still have time to vote for a candidate that is 'mostly truthful' a whopping 51% of the time jeez ys wingnuts

maybe i'm misreading it but fiorina codes more as high-powered business woman to me than wingnut

like w/ no relevance to what her actual positions might be just what i imagine her supporters like about her

ok, this uses the underlying polls that RCP tracks, not the poll averages:

http://i.imgur.com/Do8dCvs.jpg

yeah, i guess fiorina's insanity is debatable. i guess she really freaked me out during the second GOP debate. something about the intensity of her delivery + the rehearsed nature of it freaked me out. hard to explain. luckily for the sake of my groundbreaking work, though, including her or not barely makes a difference to the crazy crew's overall dominance.

do you all like the little arrow i put on the right side? if my calculations are correct they should be at about 300% by february, har har

60% of the Republican party

"likely voters," who are not the party

watch for the nominee to be not-one-of-those-three

rubio, then? it's definitely possible, but cruz has so much money.

i beseech you (poor morons) to break out of your fact free bubble and vote for a candidate that is maybe only lying 49% of the time (maybe less!)

That whole thing where Fiorina made up a clip from the Planned Parenthood videos and then refused to retract it when everyone pointed out it didn't exist. I think that's her claim to wingnut fame. But compared to the of the repub field, that seems quite mild, perhaps.

Are polls even down to the "likely voter" point yet? Thought that was one of 538's recurring mantras, that as it gets closer to the actual voting, the polls will be refining down to a likely-voter model but I can't remember how they do that or when.

surprised no one is hammering the 'but the futures markets say otherwise' stuff in the press this time around

caption this photo plz
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/sOtAI3p0s_iO04bgGF3Muw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://40.media.tumblr.com/f1447cdfe580142be6ed97fec6c25901/tumblr_inline_nzd6f5OhSN1tdoo3z_1280.jpg

Feel like the services of St Sanders are needed

saw my first Rubio bumper sticker today

http://i68.tinypic.com/91e7ow.jpg

i made an homage to the pioneering politicians with dildos guy, but warning, extremely NSFW

it's also kind of disturbing, sorry

an acquaintance made this (also nsfw)

https://twitter.com/_markallen/status/663812185563369472

@the_intercept 18h
Marco Rubio, who is raising money from telecom industry, asked FCC to let states block municipal broadband services.

https://theintercept.com/2015/12/14/marco-rubio-pushes-to-block-low-cost-high-speed-broadband/

Trump supporter screams "Sieg Heil" at Black Lives Matter protestor during Trump rally:
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Donald-Trump-Supporters-Scream-Nazi-Salute-6699265.php