the ppl who ignore the man are representatives of the temple faith. the implicit suggestion (stated elsewhere explicitly) is that they are more concerned w/ the strict law than w/ kindness/love. this is a fundamental dichotomy that the text is affirming here. the good samaritan is a member of a heretical sect that is good by virtue of his complete disassociation w/ contemporaneous jewry. that's why the third person is a samaritan and not the anticipated israelite (where at least you could read an affirmation of humble/outsiderness w/out the sting of absolute theological rejection). idk why his theological background is a problem - i'd trust his educational training on a topic like this more than any other institutional expertise (except maybe a strict bible crit pov which i think would agree w/ a number of his pts).
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
i do find it amusing how defensive christians get about this tho
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
It's not 'contemporaneous jewry'. It's upper caste jewry. And the good samaritan is good because he does good.
And I'd trust a religious historian to point out the original history of the bible text, more than a theologician. He seems to have no awareness of any kind of history.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:07 (eight years ago) link
I have a degree in history, btw. I think that has as much to do with my 'defensiveness' as my religion does.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
okay lol
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
upper caste is a misnomer. they were the religious priests who conducted the temple service integral to jewish ritual life of which detailed references persist in the daily liturgy of jewish prayer in 2015.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
I wish Jesus had known about dinosaurs tbh
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
he knew they were a HOAX
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link
And final thing, but aren't priests and levites also israelites? It would be like a joke: 'a new yorker, a southerner, and an american walks into a bar'...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
no, 3 different castes. israelite is understood to mean not a cohen or a levi
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
― Mordy, 16. december 2015 00:09 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That is not opposites. Christian history is full of anti-clericalism as well, and not based on anti-religion, but religious and political elites has often been intertwined.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
What Would Jesus Run As?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
has anyone ever made a movie in which jesus came back and ran for president?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
JESUS 2016
http://ratiochristi.org/media/events/photos/whyjesus.JPG
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/naijcom/status/675429038039633920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
jesus be like "wha?"
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
he looks confused about being on Twitter
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
"God is my hashtag? Why?"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
They should get Andy Serkis to funny suit animate that caveman Jesus.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link
He looks a little like Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds facially.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
they should use that computer to tell us the son of man's IQ
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:47 (eight years ago) link
Caught some of Hannity out of Buffalo on the way home tonight, and he was complaining about Obama not bombing oil fields to choke off funding of Isis. "We need a wartime president." His wording reminded me of James Caan in The Godfather: "If I had a wartime consiglieri--a Sicilian--I wouldn't be in this shape. Pop had Genco, look what I got."
I hope someone in this debate gets panicky.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link
Besides the audience, you mean.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link
lol we DID bomb the oil fields just recently after holding off for a while
http://time.com/4145903/islamic-state-oil-syria/
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link
although the fine print of that article does suggest some hesitancy & inertia
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link
did rubio, cruz and jeb all say "everyone understands" why people reacted to trump the way they did?
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link
watching this debate i feel like i'm hallucinating getting attacked by terrorists once a month over the past eight years
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
Are Americans really more afraid than at any time since 9/11?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
I can't believe they're still running nine people out there. If school teams operated that way, we'd still be holding football tryouts in June.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link
Is the San Bernardino attack really being treated as a terrorist attack on some different level than a crazy guy shooting up a clinic in Colorado Springs?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link
I'd like the moderators to ask these guys how they would fundamentally distinguish the San Bernardino shooting from the Colorado Springs shooting. Does it just boil down to the religion of the shooter?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link
These guys are such dipshits all of them.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:16 (eight years ago) link
Which of these chumps keeps coughing off camera?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago
ask them about Dylann Roof
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link
They should take all phones and screens away from these guys, lock them in a room, then just tell them they're the stars of a highly rated reality show. Then keep them in that room, forever, until they die. And then keep broadcasting it, so we can slowly watch them decompose.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link
Christie's tie is trying to escape.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
I actually thought Christie said "And we stopped four dicks..." there--I thought his famous temper was taking hold.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
Forget office, Jeb! has seriously aged over the course of his campaign.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:23 (eight years ago) link
Trump just claimed the Internet for America.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link
I think Trump wants to invade the internet.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link
I think a firewall that starts with a simple pop-up question--"Are you from Isis?"--would work just fine.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link
ironically being locked in a room and decomposing is kind what it's like to work for the government!
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link
which one of these people would be best at running the day to day functions of the government?
like the really boring shit
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link
Well, if you conclude the day to day function of the government is indiscriminately killing and bombing, they'd probably all be OK at that.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link
Kill, kill, death, death.
who could take care of a plant hte best
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
http://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2015/06/dead-plant.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
"who can take care of a plant?"
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
jeb very much the "very serious person" in the room
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link