Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

When Fiorina and Kasich start in on how much people hate all the squabbling--don't they know that's the only reason to watch one of these things?

eh just watch a wwe rerun then, i watch it to catch up on the issues

I didn't catch the first 45 mins or so, but this seemed fairly uneventful. I don't think rubio came off well.

Is the San Bernardino attack really being treated as a terrorist attack on some different level than a crazy guy shooting up a clinic in Colorado Springs?

― Josh in Chicago

ask them about Dylann Roof

― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please. please ask about Roof. and ask about his hero, white supremacist Earl Holt, who has given tens of thousands of dollars to three men standing on that stage tonight.

just don't play a game where you have to drink if they mention mental instability

or when this thread mentions mental instability (wingnuts etc) (x-post)

NPR news led w/ a Huckabee quote! The one about Facebook monitoring that sounded like Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-20
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-19
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-18

Naturally the hacks this morning obsess over Jeb!'s "comeback" and ignore Rand Paul inflicting well-timed stings on Christie, Rubio, and Cruz for their belligerence.

Sting (wrestler or musician) entering the race at this point would indeed be well-timed.

Sting's expertise in tantric practices may help Republican candidates in their decisionmaking about whether to stay in or pull out (of the race).

Also, we'd all be fucked.

Proper fucked?

president of pain

would have voted for him in '84 if he'd worn his Dune thong to debates

The thong remainth the thame.

"On ISIS, let's be clear: The president needs to be a force that's trusted in the world," Christie said. "This president's not trusted ... but I'll tell you this: When I stand across from King Hussein of Jordan, and I say to him, 'You have a friend again, sir, who will stand with you to fight this fight.' he'll change his mind."

King Hussein of Jordan died in 1999.

....The current leader of Jordan is King Abdullah II. Christie and his family were guests of King Abdullah in 2012, when they stayed as weekend guests at Kempinski Hotel there and ran up a tab of $30,000, paid for in part by King Abdullah, according to a report by The New York Times.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/12/christie_says_hed_meet_with_jordanian_king_who_die.html

Oh Christie

names are details, look at the big pitcher

why has president barack HUSSEIN obama never been seen in the same room with king HUSSEIN? why won't he promise the american people to meet with him before the end of his term? what's he trying to hide?

names are details, look at the big pitcher

They all look same after all.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWXNw6DUsAEGeGK.png

Voting for Yoda I shall be.

I love that Yoda is in there. And that Rubio has been allowed in there, but off to the side. It's all about Cruz!

Establishing shot: Tedtooine, exterior, day.

PRINCESS FI'ORINA: "Help us, Obi-Ben Carsoni, you're our only hope!"

QUI'GON RU'B'IO: "No! There is another!"

D'ONALD FETT: "Fuhgeddaboutit. My lightsaber is more yuge."

common sense, you might call it

It’s no surprise that talking heads rarely recall what happened to Ron Paul supporters in Tampa. They weren’t really watching. I was though, and below is my dispatch from the day the then-Texas congressman’s delegates were evicted from the convention, which some traveled hundreds of miles to attend, on obscure legal technicalities, and replaced by shills for Mitt Romney. It was ugly, an utter insult to a group of hopeful (and mostly young) Republicans who thought that they could change their party through the proper channels.

I don’t like Trump any more or less than I like or loathe Ron Paul, or Rand Paul for that matter. None of that really matters though — at least not any more than it matters if voters at the state level from here to Minnesota back Trump or some other booming fringe chump. The Donald absolutely will not clear the RNC in Cleveland, and while the hideously-coiffed candidate and journalists alike will surely act like the insidious scam of convention politics is some new phenomenon when it repeats itself in 2016, they only have to look back a few years for a precedent …

https://medium.com/@Fara1/here-s-why-and-how-trump-won-t-get-the-gop-nomination-ee5f928d6a78#.d4jtclgdv

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/hRX2gUy7PK_QyOxL1FO0mcFa2jA=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5337665/Ad_spendingVspolls2-1%20(1).jpg

(not pictured: Lindsey Graham's eyes)

ad buys at this pt wouldn't be national tho, right? they'd be concentrated on early primary states?

trump is on TV all the damn time anyways so why spend the money.

http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/75cd2e6/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F77%2Fbd%2F7f545c9c43ccb258e814b3ee40fb%2Fjeb-face.gif

oh man, lost opportunity for jeb to do the Jim From the Office face there

back
and to the left

That's the nice guy version of the GTFO move.

I had the debate on for about 10 seconds last night and saw exactly the reverse, Jeb talking and Trump mugging (minus the desperate fear-in-eyes finishing move).

The part where Trump said "Oh, you're real tough, Jeb?" One the rare moments I've actually felt a bit of sympathy for Jeb. Trump is such a bullying prick.

ad buys at this pt wouldn't be national tho, right? they'd be concentrated on early primary states?

this is a good point honestly - makes the chart a bit silly, even though i do love the image of jeb's head being smooshed into low single digits by the weight of his big giant spending circle.

so did I miss anything last night

i wonder how seriously jeb! has considered calling trump 'chickenshit' on live tv

it'd probably sound like when my mom swears, tho. he's not like his brother, who you could have a beer with and really curse

The part where Trump said "Oh, you're real tough, Jeb?" One the rare moments I've actually felt a bit of sympathy for Jeb. Trump is such a bullying prick.

kinda wonder how well jeb would be doing in the theoretical world where trump hadn't run and there wasn't someone on stage *constantly* emasculating him - right now every single trump/bush interaction makes bush look like some shy teenager. to his defense, he's kinda stuck in a shitty spot because trump doesn't have to play by the same social rules. like bush can't get away with acting like an even brasher asshole than trump. it actually seems possible that trump coulda done this same thing to romney 4 years ago.

like he could even call romney poor

he would call water wet

WaPo summary says there was a point where Jeb clearly got under Trump's skin - what's that in reference to?

yeah, i think trump has a very keen instinct for going after the romneys and bushes of the world - would have been the exact same deal. jeb seems particularly flustered and inept with it, and romney might be closer to trump's universe of money people and stuff but he never handled being put on the spot very well. but really jeb walked in the door just waiting to have the "wimp" magazine cover framed around his face.

he should have spent more time clearing brush

you misspelled Jeb!'s name

Romney is lot flintier than Jeb! and a lot more comfortable with playing the condescending patrician; I would not be surprised if Trump's attack strategy backfired, particularly if Romney could get any reasonable dirt on him via common business contacts.

and Romney's gotten more insults over his religion than his money in his lifetime, I'd imagine.

not that this would've stopped Trump

Oh of course not, I'm just saying Romney's reaction would probably not read as wounded emasculation

romney seemed more alien - like he would've had a bizarrely off-putting reaction to trump insults but only for the same reason he had a bizarrely off-putting reaction to anything

conservative think tank looks into the white pro-trump poor

http://family-studies.org/why-do-white-working-class-people-support-trump/

shit is depressing