Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

why has president barack HUSSEIN obama never been seen in the same room with king HUSSEIN? why won't he promise the american people to meet with him before the end of his term? what's he trying to hide?

names are details, look at the big pitcher

They all look same after all.

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Voting for Yoda I shall be.

I love that Yoda is in there. And that Rubio has been allowed in there, but off to the side. It's all about Cruz!

Establishing shot: Tedtooine, exterior, day.

PRINCESS FI'ORINA: "Help us, Obi-Ben Carsoni, you're our only hope!"

QUI'GON RU'B'IO: "No! There is another!"

D'ONALD FETT: "Fuhgeddaboutit. My lightsaber is more yuge."

common sense, you might call it

It’s no surprise that talking heads rarely recall what happened to Ron Paul supporters in Tampa. They weren’t really watching. I was though, and below is my dispatch from the day the then-Texas congressman’s delegates were evicted from the convention, which some traveled hundreds of miles to attend, on obscure legal technicalities, and replaced by shills for Mitt Romney. It was ugly, an utter insult to a group of hopeful (and mostly young) Republicans who thought that they could change their party through the proper channels.

I don’t like Trump any more or less than I like or loathe Ron Paul, or Rand Paul for that matter. None of that really matters though — at least not any more than it matters if voters at the state level from here to Minnesota back Trump or some other booming fringe chump. The Donald absolutely will not clear the RNC in Cleveland, and while the hideously-coiffed candidate and journalists alike will surely act like the insidious scam of convention politics is some new phenomenon when it repeats itself in 2016, they only have to look back a few years for a precedent …

https://medium.com/@Fara1/here-s-why-and-how-trump-won-t-get-the-gop-nomination-ee5f928d6a78#.d4jtclgdv

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(not pictured: Lindsey Graham's eyes)

ad buys at this pt wouldn't be national tho, right? they'd be concentrated on early primary states?

trump is on TV all the damn time anyways so why spend the money.

http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/75cd2e6/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F77%2Fbd%2F7f545c9c43ccb258e814b3ee40fb%2Fjeb-face.gif

oh man, lost opportunity for jeb to do the Jim From the Office face there

back
and to the left

That's the nice guy version of the GTFO move.

I had the debate on for about 10 seconds last night and saw exactly the reverse, Jeb talking and Trump mugging (minus the desperate fear-in-eyes finishing move).

The part where Trump said "Oh, you're real tough, Jeb?" One the rare moments I've actually felt a bit of sympathy for Jeb. Trump is such a bullying prick.

ad buys at this pt wouldn't be national tho, right? they'd be concentrated on early primary states?

this is a good point honestly - makes the chart a bit silly, even though i do love the image of jeb's head being smooshed into low single digits by the weight of his big giant spending circle.

so did I miss anything last night

i wonder how seriously jeb! has considered calling trump 'chickenshit' on live tv

it'd probably sound like when my mom swears, tho. he's not like his brother, who you could have a beer with and really curse

The part where Trump said "Oh, you're real tough, Jeb?" One the rare moments I've actually felt a bit of sympathy for Jeb. Trump is such a bullying prick.

kinda wonder how well jeb would be doing in the theoretical world where trump hadn't run and there wasn't someone on stage *constantly* emasculating him - right now every single trump/bush interaction makes bush look like some shy teenager. to his defense, he's kinda stuck in a shitty spot because trump doesn't have to play by the same social rules. like bush can't get away with acting like an even brasher asshole than trump. it actually seems possible that trump coulda done this same thing to romney 4 years ago.

like he could even call romney poor

he would call water wet

WaPo summary says there was a point where Jeb clearly got under Trump's skin - what's that in reference to?

yeah, i think trump has a very keen instinct for going after the romneys and bushes of the world - would have been the exact same deal. jeb seems particularly flustered and inept with it, and romney might be closer to trump's universe of money people and stuff but he never handled being put on the spot very well. but really jeb walked in the door just waiting to have the "wimp" magazine cover framed around his face.

he should have spent more time clearing brush

you misspelled Jeb!'s name

Romney is lot flintier than Jeb! and a lot more comfortable with playing the condescending patrician; I would not be surprised if Trump's attack strategy backfired, particularly if Romney could get any reasonable dirt on him via common business contacts.

and Romney's gotten more insults over his religion than his money in his lifetime, I'd imagine.

not that this would've stopped Trump

Oh of course not, I'm just saying Romney's reaction would probably not read as wounded emasculation

romney seemed more alien - like he would've had a bizarrely off-putting reaction to trump insults but only for the same reason he had a bizarrely off-putting reaction to anything

conservative think tank looks into the white pro-trump poor

http://family-studies.org/why-do-white-working-class-people-support-trump/

shit is depressing

I told her about Trump’s comments that he thinks America shouldn’t raise the minimum wage to $15 because wages are already “too high,” and that Americans just had to work harder. Here she was, a woman lucky to get four hours of sleep because she had to work two jobs. Did his comment bother her?

“My thought is that I kind of agree with him, though,” she said. “Is it fair for someone who works at McDonald’s to make $15 an hour, versus I’m a teacher at a preschool with an associate’s degree making $10 an hour? Is that fair? Is it fair that I should go to school to better myself to have a career, yet any Joe that walks into McDonald’s is making more than me? Is that fair? I don’t think so.”

Stoking resentment of preschool teachers, nice move.

and Quarter Pounder lovers

preschool teacher doesn't know what "minimum" means

I told her about Trump’s comments that he thinks America shouldn’t raise the minimum wage to $15 because wages are already “too high,” and that Americans just had to work harder. Here she was, a woman lucky to get four hours of sleep because she had to work two jobs. Did his comment bother her?

“My thought is that I kind of agree with him, though,” she said. “Is it fair for someone who works at McDonald’s to make $15 an hour, versus I’m a teacher at a preschool with an associate’s degree making $10 an hour? Is that fair? Is it fair that I should go to school to better myself to have a career, yet any Joe that walks into McDonald’s is making more than me? Is that fair? I don’t think so.”

this sounds like when people complain about pro athlete's salaries -- yes, it is kind of insane to give someone $200m to play baseball, but the money's there and if it doesn't go to the employees then it goes to the owners

I mean, he’s rich for a reason. I’m poor for a reason! We all have our reasons for our financial standing in life. He has a business, he knows how to run it. So clearly he did something right. I may not know the secrets yet—someday I might. Hopefully!

the beating heart of something or other

May you discover that you, too, have a very wealthy father.

interesting to see that those people hardly hate hillary.

“I think to him Red Lobster is like McDonald’s.”

This quote though.

do they serve trump steaks at red lobster because thats what I assume is all he eats

They're adding new Asian-style Trumplings.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWbohY3XAAATm9z.jpg

"He is a bright and talented person without any doubt," Putin said at a news conference Thursday, adding that he believed Trump to be "an outstanding and talented personality."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/17/vladimir-putin-praises-donald-trump-sealing-a-long-distance-bromance

haha Putin openly SALIVATING at the idea of dealing with President Trump

"watch me play this idiot like a fiddle"

I suspect that's Putin's thinking, but I wonder if anyone will try to use this *against* Trump (Fiorina, at least)

idk why Putin needs to be disingenuous to like Trump. they're both illiberal egomaniacs who believe security is a significantly higher concern than human rights - cf: Vladimir Putin Signs Law Allowing Russia To Overthrow Human Rights Court Verdicts

You would think, at some point, that the other republican candidates would begin laying out the wondrous variety of ways in which a President Trump would be a complete liability to this country. But I don't know that I credit that crew of knuckleheads with that much insight, really.