in bikram's defense, it can help with getting lean bc A) you sweat a few pounds of water weight every class and B) you def want an empty stomach going in
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link
one time i did a very flow class and really got in the grove then did some speed work on the treadmill and was just effortlessly flying it felt very magical
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link
not slagging bikram and it's def not zero-effort - some of the poses require real strength and the long holds are good, but if you try the sequence without the heat it's a lot less of a whammy
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link
the heat is def a whammy for sure
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link
i do find that "flow/vinyasa" style translates better to other stuff bc of the work you do linking breath with movement and maintaining steadiness through fatigue in the transitions between poses.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link
Not huge but good muscles/lean is what I really want, and I do have somewhat of a natural proclivity toward mass. Ashtanga sounds great, but I'm kind of attached to paying $20/month for a gym that's near work and it's hard to justify spending a lot more and adding a new layer of complexity to my workout schedule right now.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link
ya unfortunately the gyms w free classes in ny r p pricey
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link
It looks like NYSC has vinyasa a couple times a week at times I could do. I think I need to upgrade to $60 or $70 a month to get the classes, but maybe I can get them to cut me a break. Not an outrageous price and I could also try some other shit like boxing or whatever.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah u can always talk them down or just look for deals online
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link
consistent boxing + any kind of yoga where you sweat is like a cheat code for general fitness (i.e. not sw0le but lean/fit/lookin' and feelin' good)
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link
also learning to wrap your hands and getting your first pair of gloves is fun :)
Ya'll talking yoga with goal of swole is o_O to me but idk I'm an iyengar person aka swole is not goal.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 January 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link
well yoga is primarily basked on gymanstics so it makes sense
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 January 2016 00:25 (eight years ago) link
so i took a wing chun class and now my forearms are beat to shit
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 January 2016 00:32 (eight years ago) link
^ talking like Popeye to make his forearms feel swole
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 January 2016 07:57 (eight years ago) link
my forearms are p swole tbh
More than the crowds rn it's the sheer amount of excuse making I hear and the sheer number of people doing shit they should not be doing
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
* asks for "liftoff"on a dumbbell press
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link
i support all fitness aspirants on their journeys but i do hate when the gym is crowded, i studiously avoid peak hours at all times of year
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
is there any particular reason why I should not lift weights barefoot in my small spare room luxuriously appointed home gym?
I mean I would never go barefoot in a gym gym, but this is my house that I am barefoot in all the time anyway.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 January 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link
I would think as long as you are on a surface with a little bit of grip and you're not lifting super heavy, probably fine. And don't drop the weights on your foot.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link
I'm not lifting super heavy. My preferred lifting shoes at the gym were Chucks, so really not much better than barefoot should I have dropped a weight on my foot!
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 January 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link
Shoes just interfere with your foot's natural dialogue with the floor maaaan
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 8 January 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link
No reason at all, if you aren't slipping and sliding. At most a shoe is just going to trap some blood and make clean-up easier if you drop a weight on your foot.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 8 January 2016 00:12 (eight years ago) link
at my "home gym" i go barefoot on my yoga mat or some type of matted flooring.
alternatively i use, like i mentioned upthread, my old running shoes with extra cushion.
if you're on hard flooring and lifting heavy, yeah, you don't want to use something like the frees or something
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 8 January 2016 00:21 (eight years ago) link
Deadlifting barefoot is great
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 January 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link
Exercising at home led to my abandonment of a proper shirt (I just put on a sports bra), then progressed to the abandonment of shoes, and has now resulted in the abandonment of proper pants/shorts. I keep the curtain drawn, obv.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 8 January 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah! same here.
i wear loose speedo-like shorts and they are so comfy and it's good for checking alignment.
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 8 January 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link
Doing some class called "bootcamp" tomorrow just for a change. Gym folks said I could do a membership with classes (one club only) for like $40/month, but they only have a couple yoga classes a week and only one vinyasa that I can realistically do (they also offer Hatha -- that's like easy bs yoga right?)
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 8 January 2016 03:39 (eight years ago) link
typically, vinyasa is more centered on matching breathing with motion and hatha is more about finding the pose. either option can be strenuous or either option can be lackadaisical depending on the teacher and what you bring to the mat. in other words, try stuff.
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 06:28 (eight years ago) link
all the yoga is good and fine
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 January 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
Thought the bootcamp class was bullshit. My main problem was that it was v full and the dude set us up with literally EIGHT different stations, each with a circuit of two different exercises, and we were supposed to move from station to station and remember what all the exercises were. I wound up leaving because I couldn't remember what all the exercises were and the dude wasn't helping out. Figured I was better off working out then standing around figuring out what to do.
Other problem was the emphasis on pace over form -- the strength aspect gets lost that way and it just becomes glorified aerobics. First half of the class made a good warmup for lifting though.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link
Can finally bench my body weight.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
nice
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Congrats!
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 28 January 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link
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― bicyclescope (mattresslessness), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
B-)
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 January 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
i think i might try to clean if anyone has any tips my plan so far: watch youtubes, try it w just the bar, practice the constituent motions seperatly
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 January 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
BTW what is the deal w/ reverse incline bench? Like is there a reason to do it? I do incline bench sometimes assuming it works upper chest/shoulders more.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Supposedly reverse grip's better for your upper pectoral muscles.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
lag∞n cleans are def my fav thing to do. just bar yes . I would work on hang cleans first just to get the turnover fluid and comfortable finishing in the front rack. plenty of youtubes out there tho
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 29 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link
I find anything with cleans almost impossible to due to lack of wrist flexibility which I guess is something I should probably work on...
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 January 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link
do you have to drop the bar at the end of a clean? because I don't feel like my gym is a good place to do that
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 29 January 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
No hang cleans it starts and ends mid thigh.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
cool ty carne, shd mention ive been doing some front squats and have developed some minor comfort w that form
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
@Alex in SF, w.r.t. cleans and racking the bar, it shouldn't really be a matter of wrist flexibility unless you have injuries or the like, since if your elbows are properly forward/up, and the bar steadily on your deltoids and the very tips of your fingers, then your wrists aren't required to bend very much at all...
so more than wrist flexibility, I'd work on your rack position, getting your arms relaxed and the elbows REALLY up and the bar on the very tips of your fingers. If it's a mobility issue, it's more likely in your upper back, shoulders or triceps.
To help find the spot, and stretch your shoulders/upper back, you can take a rack position with the bar and have someone GENTLY! push your elbows upwards (while you make sure you don't lean backwards or collapse your back to compensate).
(I could be wrong and maybe you really have exceptionally stiff wrists, but it's usually getting the rack position wrong that makes people think the problem is with their wrists)
― The only stan who actually ruins their faves for others (Hiisi), Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:08 (eight years ago) link
how much are you supposed to drop down when you get under the bar? i extend my hips enough to get under and rotate but somehow it feels like i'm not dropping enough.
― bicyclescope (mattresslessness), Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link
I've been having trouble with cleans too... I'm at the point in Starting Strength where I'm supposed to add power cleans- well past it, actually, but I missed a full week for the holidays and my squat progress has been slow as hell so I gave myself a little more time- and I'm just a goddamn mess. I'm trying to break it down into three parts and practice them individually as in the book, but I'm stymied by my freakishly long monkey arms. The top position is difficult to achieve because even if I have my hands almost perpendicular to the floor I'm still jamming the bar way into my throat. Has anyone else dealt with this?
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 1 February 2016 03:15 (eight years ago) link
i tried hang cleans w just the bar today and this cld take a while lol didnt really feel like i was getting it at all, think maybe putting a lil more weight on there might be more informative as its so easy to just lift the bar up w yr arms i cldnt really tell if i was even doing anything
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 February 2016 07:34 (eight years ago) link