Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

Bernghazi! (somebody's probably already said this)

it's funny how he can be remarkably cogent and perceptive about historical trends one moment and then offer totally idiotic campaign prescriptions the next

Descriptive beats out the prescriptive, then?

in his case, yes. Part of my surprise is due to reading a right-wing pundit/prez candidate who can accurately cite historical precedent, draw a clear line of argument, and marshal facts in support of a point of view. Kind of anomaly these days. Much as I vehemently disagree with a lot of what he says.

hey, Chelsea wielding the family lying hatchet on Sanders already. She's her parents' daughter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chelsea-clinton-bernie-sanders-single-payer_56956c06e4b05b3245dad15a?lth85mi=

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/

odds are in at Bovada.

Just dems:

•Hillary Clinton -900
•Bernie Sanders +450

Just Goppers:

•Marco Rubio +160
•Donald Trump +200
•Ted Cruz +290
•Jeb Bush +800
•Chris Christie +1400
•Ben Carson +5000
•John Kasich +5000
•Carly Fiorina +7500

and overall:

•Hillary Clinton -110
•Donald Trump +300
•Bernie Sanders +500
•Marco Rubio +800
•Ted Cruz +1000
•Jeb Bush +3300
•Chris Christie +3300
•Ben Carson +10000
•John Kasich +15000
•Carly Fiorina +15000

weird, wonder why rubio drops against trump overall but leads in just gop category

this is exciting
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-president/2016/01/12/1484a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html

weird, wonder why rubio drops against trump overall but leads in just gop category

was wondering that myself, I think it has something to do with the fact that these odds are based on what they think the public will bet, not what they see the actual odds as. apparently they think Trump to win it all is going to get a lot of action even at unfavorable odds

why is that exciting mordy

NYTimes report: GOP candidate Ted Cruz failed to disclose loan from Goldman Sachs in campaign finance reports

kinda doubt this would effect his support tho

did his wife hook it up for him?

trump could exploit the shit out of this tho.. 'my opponent is literally bought and paid for by goldman sachs. dude tried to cover it up. I cant be bought because Im richer than god blah blah blah'

that seems like a foregone conclusion

xp

yeah I guess there's a "he's just like these establishment LOSERS" angle here I hadn't considered

"As far as I'm concerned, anger is OK," Trump said on CNN. "Anger and energy is what this country needs."

Seconds later: "One more thing--may the road rise with you."

lol

Listening to Trump talk about Cruz's eligibility, or Hillary as Bill's enabler--which in both cases amounts to an almost sorrowful "I don't want to talk about this, you brought it up"--he's practically a genius on the order of Cecil B. DeMille: all that sin and licentiousness, it's just awful--let's take a look. He just talked rings around Erin Burnett a couple of minutes ago. I think he's lethal when he dials it back and slips into his soft-spoken gee-whiz persona.

I think he would flounder terribly in a GE debate.

good morning!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

Didn't realize Trump was into PiL.

omg

part of the fun is trying to figure out which person in the audience is you

honestly don't know if that's satirical or serious

That's an unbelievable number of USA cliches in 2:15.

at first i thought it was fake, like they took b-roll footage of an audience waiting for Trump to show up and then greenscreened the dance squad in, but then the audience starts clapping in time and it's too real

Comments are also a very confusing jumble of satire/serious.

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

my mind has ground to a complete halt

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

Yeah, I would suggest polling it, but no way this wouldn't win.

as true today as it was when our forefathers wrote it in the constitution

t/f: this is child abuse

probably but I feel that way about most professional kids' stuff (modeling, beauty pageants, etc.)

when i was a badass prepubescent teenager, i talked a bunch of trash on a dance squad at our school during a performance. i didn't realize one of the moms near us was a mother of one of the performers, and she started crying. i definitely felt really cool as i reminisced about the moment later that night while flipping through an issue of cosmopolitan i took from my sister's room

in fairness, one of the primary responsibilities of teenagers is to make mothers cry

:) now i can finally move on!

I had that Trump speech on in the background (curiosity is a terrible thing) and it's not news, but he's very good at what he does, and he is fantastically shameless in an "oh no, he's not going to..!?!" way. Here's the transcript only of the last minute:

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

lying to the american public has never been quite so un-nuanced and obvious; he's the purloined letter of politics

who knew Charlie Sheen would have such an amazing second career as a speechwriter

The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger

This is called bloating.

"bloasting"

Registered bloater.

Wait, hold on. I gotta call Mark Russell with that one.

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

As I was reading that I was picturing him falling to his knees with an aide walking out with a cape

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

some people wanna win so bad

"The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before"

so.... like a zombie with super strength?

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

They're called 'eight-year-olds'. Or 'adults operating at the cognitive level of an eight-year-old'.

can't watch the video but reading these comments and all I hear is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

I'm impressed that America's first substance free campaign has done so well. This will be a model for future campaigns for sure.

=(

lol first