Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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weird, wonder why rubio drops against trump overall but leads in just gop category

was wondering that myself, I think it has something to do with the fact that these odds are based on what they think the public will bet, not what they see the actual odds as. apparently they think Trump to win it all is going to get a lot of action even at unfavorable odds

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

why is that exciting mordy

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

NYTimes report: GOP candidate Ted Cruz failed to disclose loan from Goldman Sachs in campaign finance reports

kinda doubt this would effect his support tho

Clay, Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link

did his wife hook it up for him?

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

trump could exploit the shit out of this tho.. 'my opponent is literally bought and paid for by goldman sachs. dude tried to cover it up. I cant be bought because Im richer than god blah blah blah'

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

that seems like a foregone conclusion

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

yeah I guess there's a "he's just like these establishment LOSERS" angle here I hadn't considered

Clay, Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link

"As far as I'm concerned, anger is OK," Trump said on CNN. "Anger and energy is what this country needs."

Seconds later: "One more thing--may the road rise with you."

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link

lol

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:08 (eight years ago) link

Listening to Trump talk about Cruz's eligibility, or Hillary as Bill's enabler--which in both cases amounts to an almost sorrowful "I don't want to talk about this, you brought it up"--he's practically a genius on the order of Cecil B. DeMille: all that sin and licentiousness, it's just awful--let's take a look. He just talked rings around Erin Burnett a couple of minutes ago. I think he's lethal when he dials it back and slips into his soft-spoken gee-whiz persona.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

I think he would flounder terribly in a GE debate.

timellison, Thursday, 14 January 2016 01:04 (eight years ago) link

good morning!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link

Didn't realize Trump was into PiL.

it takes the village people (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

omg

welltris (crüt), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link

part of the fun is trying to figure out which person in the audience is you

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

honestly don't know if that's satirical or serious

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

That's an unbelievable number of USA cliches in 2:15.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

at first i thought it was fake, like they took b-roll footage of an audience waiting for Trump to show up and then greenscreened the dance squad in, but then the audience starts clapping in time and it's too real

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Comments are also a very confusing jumble of satire/serious.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

goole, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

my mind has ground to a complete halt

goole, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

Yeah, I would suggest polling it, but no way this wouldn't win.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link

as true today as it was when our forefathers wrote it in the constitution

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

t/f: this is child abuse

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

probably but I feel that way about most professional kids' stuff (modeling, beauty pageants, etc.)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

when i was a badass prepubescent teenager, i talked a bunch of trash on a dance squad at our school during a performance. i didn't realize one of the moms near us was a mother of one of the performers, and she started crying. i definitely felt really cool as i reminisced about the moment later that night while flipping through an issue of cosmopolitan i took from my sister's room

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

in fairness, one of the primary responsibilities of teenagers is to make mothers cry

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

:) now i can finally move on!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

I had that Trump speech on in the background (curiosity is a terrible thing) and it's not news, but he's very good at what he does, and he is fantastically shameless in an "oh no, he's not going to..!?!" way. Here's the transcript only of the last minute:

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

lying to the american public has never been quite so un-nuanced and obvious; he's the purloined letter of politics

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

who knew Charlie Sheen would have such an amazing second career as a speechwriter

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger

This is called bloating.

pplains, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

"bloasting"

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

Registered bloater.

Wait, hold on. I gotta call Mark Russell with that one.

pplains, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

As I was reading that I was picturing him falling to his knees with an aide walking out with a cape

joygoat, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

some people wanna win so bad

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

"The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before"

so.... like a zombie with super strength?

sleeve, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

They're called 'eight-year-olds'. Or 'adults operating at the cognitive level of an eight-year-old'.

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

can't watch the video but reading these comments and all I hear is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm impressed that America's first substance free campaign has done so well. This will be a model for future campaigns for sure.

=(

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

lol first

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

He literally says nothing!

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Huh, kind of forgot about Carson. Is he still running? Did he just sort of quietly self-destruct?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

i think he loudly self-destructed.

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

In a rambling interview with a Catholic news network over the weekend, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson derided marriage equality and protections for transgender people as “extra rights” for “a few people who perhaps are abnormal,” warning that if the next president’s Supreme Court nominees protect LGBT rights, you can “say goodbye to America.”

Carson made the comments in an interview with the Witherspoon Institute’s Matthew Franck as part of a series of conversations with presidential candidates on the Catholic network EWTN.

When Franck asked Carson about Department of Education efforts to protect the rights of transgender students in schools, Carson launched into a discussion of how “political correctness” and “extra rights” are ruining America.

“You see how silly this is,” he said. “I mean, it’s beyond ridiculous that you take the most abnormal situation and then you make everyone else conform to it. That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. That’s one of the very reasons that I have been an outspoken opponent of things like gay marriage. I don’t have any problem with gay people doing anything they want to do. You know, it’s a free country, there’s freedom of association. However, when you now impose your value system on everybody else and change fundamental definitions and principles of society, I have a big problem with that. Everybody is equal, everybody has equal rights, but nobody gets extra rights. And when we start trying to impose the extra rights based on a few people who perhaps are abnormal, where does that lead?”

After warning that gay marriage could lead to legalized polygamy and railing against “garbage” arguments for transgender rights, Carson said, “We are absolutely destroying ourselves because we are paying attention to political correctness.”

“Our time is running out,” he added. “If we don’t stand up for principles now and we get a progressive and they get two or three Supreme Court picks, say goodbye to America.”

nomar, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah America was never about granting people rights

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Political correctness seems to have become a huge buzzword on the right. It's ruining America. Talking to kids about bullying is enforcing political correctness. Obama won't call it Islamic Terrorism because of political correctness. We love Trump because he's not politically correct.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link


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