Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/ted-cruz-still-thinks-is-an-epithet.html

It’s also arguable that the perception of New Yorkers as nicer folks comes from the ending of openly displayed, socially acceptable anti-Semitism. The view of New Yorkers as fast-dealing business sharks is not without racist roots — as the columnist Cynthia Heimel once noted, “the cultural elite” was a lightly coded way of saying “Jews.” As the right has gradually recast itself as Israel’s best friend, it has had to cast out the Bircher anti-Semites within its ranks. You’ll notice that, whereas a generation ago, conservatives routinely spoke of “our traditional Christian values,” that phrase today has always become “our Judeo-Christian values.” That’s no accident.

I think it's just an "anti big city" whistle

i didn't think so either, but saw the question being asked. figured it was more homophobic than anything, but probably just harking back to palin's 'real america' (or john rocker on the 7 train)

it's nice that cruz will never forget 9/11 tho

I mean just in case there weren't enough examples of being an un-presidential moron littering his path, that really takes the cake, I mean you just handed Trump the biggest softball of the entire campaign to date. Look at this nonsense

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/15/the-most-surprisingly-noble-moment-of-the-gop-debate-courtesy-of-donald-trump/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-now-see-a-trump-cruz-race-with-time-for-a-shift-running-out/2016/01/15/9b5d91f0-bbb4-11e5-b682-4bb4dd403c7d_story.html

Those girls in the "Trump Jam" video seem to be lip-synching.

trump who is the least jewish person i can imagine.

oy rly?

The Pope is more Jewish than Donald Trump

If it does come down to Donald vs Hillary it is hard for me to imagine that the big money donors of the Republican Business Establishment would deem Donald to be a good investment, compared to trying to get in HRC's good graces and reaping whatever they could from that relationship. Trump, even if he had a prayer of winning in the general, strikes me as much too loose a cannon for the kind of donors who've backed Jeb! to the hilt.

I feel like HRC would be a good lifeboat for people trying to bail on the GOP. People who couldn't deal with a black president could make amends with the first woman. Lots of Clinton connections everywhere

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/688166293690687488

lots of rich guys are giving money to this one rich guy, news

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-now-see-a-trump-cruz-race-with-time-for-a-shift-running-out/2016/01/15/9b5d91f0-bbb4-11e5-b682-4bb4dd403c7d_story.html

URL sez it all: https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/nate-silver-calls-it-for-clinton-in-ia-and-nh/

The writer forgets to mention though, that 538 made two predictions, Polls-Only and Polls-Plus, and in the first one Sanders has a 72% chance of winning NH.

xpost It doesn't, though, right? I mean, not to say it's the wrong conclusion, but Silver hasn't actually "called" either race that I can find - rather, the forecast currently proclaims those odds for each race, as of today, right? So the forecast could change as new data comes in, though as it gets closer to the day, it would take huger and huger shifts in the polls to have the same shift in the forecast. As well, in NH there's a difference (noted above) between their two forecast models - one says Bernie has a 72% chance, one says Hillary has a 57% chance. Not really seeing the "call" there.

yeah i don't see we need to look at someone else's 'summary' of predictions when they are made in public on 538

Man, this election. Might be the first time I might not vote.

Silver's projecting, not predicting. (Everything I know I learned on ILB.)

This lawsuit out of Houston looks a little too deus ex machina to be true. Trump was terrible in the debate when Cruz's citizenship came up; 48 hours later, Trump's altruistic concern over Cruz is validated. The guy launching the lawsuit will probably turn out to be a regional campaign manager for Trump, there'll be a huge outcry, Trump will be declared finished, he'll explain he was doing Cruz a favour by getting it out of the way now, then he'll immediately shoot up another 10% in the polls.

oh, there's a democratic debate tonight. Sunday night before MLK day; the ratings should be through the roof

We'll see if it does better/worse than the last Dem debate, on a Saturday night.

guys - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/have-republicans-given-up-on-fighting-trump.html?mid=facebook_nymag

combine this w/ a few signs we could be heading into recession and i'm a little worried

Yeah, just wait until the stars align and we get Trump v. Sanders in a recession year after a terrorist attack.

Y'all Donald Trump wouldn't win dog catcher if we were all simultaneously being bitten by rabid pitbulls

Y'all realize he would lose the latinx vote by 80% or so?

^ p much agreed. my only concern is that there is a slight possibility he could reach the apolitical US Weekly celebudope worship demo that has heretofore remained untapped. idk.

Who, Trump?

yeah

Idek what that demographic is except women? Donald's not winning women voters

Looking forward to '24 race when it's Elizabeth Warren vs th Duck Dynasty guy.

i'd venture there is a dude-bro version of that demo. and i'm not convinced Trump would perform as badly with female voters as common sense would suggest

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

this is me being total chicken little here so

i mean im shocked that we are in 2016 talking about the prospect of a trump nomination (i still dont think its going to happen but i dont laugh it off anymore). but he's got no viable electoral college path imo. which obama states would he flip?

That politico piece is weird and kinda dumb; it's a Ph.D. student shocking the world with the concept that Trump supporters are authoritarians

And of course ending up proposing that people should focus more ressources on his research subject.

"Because, if God forbid Isis pays a visit to you, to our community, the last thing standing between them and our families may be the ability to protect ourselves with our guns."

marcooooo

The should cast this entire would-be republican slate in the next sequel to "The Expendables." Sly! Arnold! Trump! Mel! Dolph! Marco! Jeb! Statham! Crews! Snipes!

do you think rubio has ever had a dream where terrorists infiltrate and the citizen army rallies around him, and he dies at the end in a way which somehow singlehandedly saves the United States of America?

Who hasn't?

Obviously it was Democratic polices with aliens that led to the 'Independence Day' fiasco. Luckily Bill Pullman was a Republican and led the US to victory.

so i was kind of intensely invested in the horse race last fall, but then sometime early last december life intervened and i stopped caring. and having taken a month or so off none of this all seems terribly important. people are desperately trying to persuade me there's a race here and look i have a profound capacity for paranoia, but there isn't. until and unless something else happens, it's clinton v. trump, clinton in a walk. am more concerned about visegrad group fascism than about anything happening in america right now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/17/hours-before-debate-sanders-shares-details-of-health-plan-that-would-raise-income-taxes/

Opiates I know, but I'd never heard the word "opioids" before. Thought it might have something to do with Ronnie Howard.

Bernie is more focused tonight imo. A lot of fire.

i find it stressful to hear sanders

he's that guy who points his finger when he talks at you and goes on and on and on and on about his highly unoriginal and negative ideas about how the world works because he knows it all. it's really off putting. i've had to work for enough managers who behave that way, i'm not voting for one

Bernie has resting-scowl face.

Vote Bernie

I'm out tonight and not watching, so that's not in response to anything. Ok I've had a few, lead me alone.