Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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another deep thought from jonathan chait:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/688930853678878720

The debate seemed ok? From the recaps and parts of transcripts I've read. And of course, the #scowl. Surprisingly left-wing all of a sudden, with all the stuff about #BLM and Wall Street reform. Sanders praising the dictator of Jordan was pretty awful, though, it makes Clinton's hawkishness look more ok in contrast.

― Frederik B, Monday, January 18, 2016 5:29 PM (48 minutes ago)

bernie has been the most vocal and consistent supporter of BLM in the race for months

They seem to think he's pretty crap at it, though.

How is Sanders as the nominee a "risk"? How is he a bigger risk than HRC?

if you can't see how making larry david the face of the democratic party is a actually a kinda big risk idk what to say

my conservative boss loves Larry David, so America is safe.

larry david is funny

They seem to think he's pretty crap at it, though.

― Frederik B, Monday, January 18, 2016 6:58 PM (8 minutes ago)

oh cool thanks for clearing that up

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See, I look at this Republican lineup, the Trump factor, and think that in this Dem primary I'd vote for an ISIS flag wearing a Martin Shkreli mask was pushing the most left-wing policies.

The chances that Trump a) wins the nom and fucks downticket races or b) runs third party and fucks Cruz are just too high to waste this year on anyone but the most progressive candidate available.

^if it was, obv

Meanwhile conservatives realize talk show hosts don't mean what they say and are interested in dough.

hahahahahaha oh the delicious schadenfreude

Wowza.

http://gawker.com/i-watched-michael-bays-benghazi-movie-at-cowboys-stadiu-1753238965

"Obama did organize passionate volunteers on a massive scale — far broader than anything Sanders has done — and tried to keep his volunteers engaged throughout his presidency. Why would Sanders’s grassroots campaign succeed where Obama’s far larger one failed?"

I'm sure other ppl have said more about this but ime mostly they tried to point the Organize For America volunteers (OFA) at supporting ACA enrollment and some other boringish supports for the administration, and sent a lot of pleading emails that everyone just deleted. It was like once Obama won the presidency the urgency ran out. Personally I think if OFA had chosen some more radical policy goals or something that felt more changey they could have kept those ppl--if they could have offered more of a crusade? But ymmv.

Oh yeah and then they tried hard to drum up not very well informed support for the TPP for a while, something that frankly I hope every person involved with OFA is deeply ashamed of.

that redstate piece Alfred linked to is PRICELESS.

it really is

conservatism is about ideas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideas_Have_Consequences#/media/File:Ideas_Have_Consequences.jpg

thpbbt
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the stunning realization that Sarah Palin's primary priority is the enrichment/advancement of Sarah Palin

I don't think I've ever looked at Red State, and I generally avoid comments sections altogether, but yeah that whole thing is amazing. Especially:

Instead, we've flocked en masse to a carnival barker. We've been used and abused by everyone who we've trusted to fix things and when we FINALLY have Mr. Right on the doorstep, we elbow him aside as we rush out into the arms of yet another one-night-stand pretty boy who wows us with his hollow play-acting and his empty rhetoric.

ooooh yeah, that sexy empty rhetoric makes all the panties drop

I assume Ted Cruz is the Mr. Right being referred to there

Would love for a whole host of conservatives to suddenly realize they've wasted years voting against their own interests and for opportunistic assholes who couldn't give fuck one about them.

(Countdown to Morbs wishing the same for the Dems...)

i haven't watched the last 2 or 3 GOP debates but does Ted Cruz still stare directly into the camera like he's making a dating video

so the biggest idiot endorsed the biggest idiot.

how is the above news?

how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

?

how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

It's gonna snow a lot on Friday, in both New York and Washington, DC.

how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rw/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/08/14/BookWorld/Images/Don

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/163286102X/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1453240801

There's about 10 reasons, which one do you want?

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No comment.

bah

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fuck you

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that redstate thing is lol. Palin endorsing Trump is just game recognizing game

lol what are they smoking over there:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/how-donald-trump-defeats-hillary-clinton-217868?ref=yfp

"ahh clicks on 'Morning Joe'..." *snort*

who tf else was palin going to endorse?! honestly

If he does all that, holds Mitt Romney’s states, and drives extraordinary levels of working-class white voter turnout in the suburbs and exurbs of Ohio and Virginia, as well as in the Florida panhandle and Jacksonville, he can flip those three Obama states and rack up 266 electoral votes. Winning any one of Iowa, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Nevada or New Mexico would put him over the top and make Donald John Trump the 45th president of the United States.

I love this

The whole piece actually reads like the reporter is winking at his DC insider audience while gaming for massive shares from the elated and enraged alike

the little clique mailing list that dude is on is all golf clapping right now

that redstate piece Alfred linked to is PRICELESS.

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:22 PM (5 hours ago)

it was but i'm sort of surprised it didn't even mention carson, who as far as i know is the only one to have published a book that coincided specifically with the campaign

Carson's a true conservative!!

lol oh

If it's taken them this long to see through Palin...

This Palin endorsement is vintage. "Quiet generosity," "compassion," "not an elitist"--that's Trump, all right. Also jibes at Greek columns and he-built-that. No Bill Ayers, but I haven't heard the whole thing.

with a voice like a shoe stepping on a bat

As a cherry on the top, the redstate piece on how maybe conservatives are being taken for a ride served me up top a banner on "Obama's ammo grab - help the NRA defend us."

http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996

The huge infrastructure of the conservative movement in Washington D.C. is aghast at Trump, and calls him an economic illiterate for threatening China with tariffs. They can't understand that this is not primarily an economic measure, but a nationalist one. It's a signal to voters that one man is here to fight for them, not to school-marmishly tell them that capitalism is helping them when in fact it manifestly helps others a lot more. Trump has attracted his coalition of supporters among those who are the most-weakly attached to the Republican Party as an institution.

Plenty of others have noticed the parallels between Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump. Some have seen that Trump is attracting the "radical middle" social base and taking on the Caesarist, almost Latin American-style populism that Francis recommended. Buchanan was recently asked about why Trump was having all the success that he did not enjoy, when he is running on so many of the issues Buchanan did 20 years ago. Buchanan said that it was because the returns are in on the policies he criticized 20 years ago. All of this is true.

Coates piece on weak Sanders response (Fred B will be loving it hah): http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/