Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

the stunning realization that Sarah Palin's primary priority is the enrichment/advancement of Sarah Palin

I don't think I've ever looked at Red State, and I generally avoid comments sections altogether, but yeah that whole thing is amazing. Especially:

Instead, we've flocked en masse to a carnival barker. We've been used and abused by everyone who we've trusted to fix things and when we FINALLY have Mr. Right on the doorstep, we elbow him aside as we rush out into the arms of yet another one-night-stand pretty boy who wows us with his hollow play-acting and his empty rhetoric.

ooooh yeah, that sexy empty rhetoric makes all the panties drop

I assume Ted Cruz is the Mr. Right being referred to there

Would love for a whole host of conservatives to suddenly realize they've wasted years voting against their own interests and for opportunistic assholes who couldn't give fuck one about them.

(Countdown to Morbs wishing the same for the Dems...)

i haven't watched the last 2 or 3 GOP debates but does Ted Cruz still stare directly into the camera like he's making a dating video

so the biggest idiot endorsed the biggest idiot.

how is the above news?

how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

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how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

It's gonna snow a lot on Friday, in both New York and Washington, DC.

how are we not talking about climate change (the only thing that really matters).

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rw/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/08/14/BookWorld/Images/Don

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/163286102X/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1453240801

There's about 10 reasons, which one do you want?

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http://imgur.com/unn1ANQ

No comment.

bah

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fuck you

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that redstate thing is lol. Palin endorsing Trump is just game recognizing game

lol what are they smoking over there:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/how-donald-trump-defeats-hillary-clinton-217868?ref=yfp

"ahh clicks on 'Morning Joe'..." *snort*

who tf else was palin going to endorse?! honestly

If he does all that, holds Mitt Romney’s states, and drives extraordinary levels of working-class white voter turnout in the suburbs and exurbs of Ohio and Virginia, as well as in the Florida panhandle and Jacksonville, he can flip those three Obama states and rack up 266 electoral votes. Winning any one of Iowa, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Nevada or New Mexico would put him over the top and make Donald John Trump the 45th president of the United States.

I love this

The whole piece actually reads like the reporter is winking at his DC insider audience while gaming for massive shares from the elated and enraged alike

the little clique mailing list that dude is on is all golf clapping right now

that redstate piece Alfred linked to is PRICELESS.

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:22 PM (5 hours ago)

it was but i'm sort of surprised it didn't even mention carson, who as far as i know is the only one to have published a book that coincided specifically with the campaign

Carson's a true conservative!!

lol oh

If it's taken them this long to see through Palin...

This Palin endorsement is vintage. "Quiet generosity," "compassion," "not an elitist"--that's Trump, all right. Also jibes at Greek columns and he-built-that. No Bill Ayers, but I haven't heard the whole thing.

with a voice like a shoe stepping on a bat

As a cherry on the top, the redstate piece on how maybe conservatives are being taken for a ride served me up top a banner on "Obama's ammo grab - help the NRA defend us."

http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996

The huge infrastructure of the conservative movement in Washington D.C. is aghast at Trump, and calls him an economic illiterate for threatening China with tariffs. They can't understand that this is not primarily an economic measure, but a nationalist one. It's a signal to voters that one man is here to fight for them, not to school-marmishly tell them that capitalism is helping them when in fact it manifestly helps others a lot more. Trump has attracted his coalition of supporters among those who are the most-weakly attached to the Republican Party as an institution.

Plenty of others have noticed the parallels between Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump. Some have seen that Trump is attracting the "radical middle" social base and taking on the Caesarist, almost Latin American-style populism that Francis recommended. Buchanan was recently asked about why Trump was having all the success that he did not enjoy, when he is running on so many of the issues Buchanan did 20 years ago. Buchanan said that it was because the returns are in on the policies he criticized 20 years ago. All of this is true.

Coates piece on weak Sanders response (Fred B will be loving it hah): http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/

If not even an avowed socialist can be bothered to grapple with reparations, if the question really is that far beyond the pale, if Bernie Sanders truly believes that victims of the Tulsa pogrom deserved nothing, that the victims of contract lending deserve nothing, that the victims of debt peonage deserve nothing, that that political plunder of black communities entitle them to nothing, if this is the candidate of the radical left—then expect white supremacy in America to endure well beyond our lifetimes and lifetimes of our children.

I'm like the original TNC stan of ILX but sure dude, a 74 year old man's inability to effectively discuss reparations is a good predictor of the next two or three generations' worth of political activity

Holy fuck at that Sanders response, hadn't seen that.

I think he's insinuating that Sanders should not be thought of as a true candidate of the radical left, though, Tomboto.

bernie's answer to that question was pretty disappointing to be honest. still, i look forward to seeing him slammed for this by the same people who call him unelectable for the rest of his platform

I'm so sick of Coates' reparations bullshit. It's never going to happen, for one very simple reason: You cannot sell it in a way that answers the question, "How does this benefit white people?" Twelve percent of the US population are not going to guilt sixty-three percent of the US population into giving them money. Period. All the Atlantic articles in the world, written in the most pretentious 19th Century preacher cadences he can muster, won't move the debate one inch. You would think someone who's studied as much history as Coates says he has would have realized by now that there's no such thing as justice, only revenge, and if you can't take it, you won't get it. All of human history is one long story of tribalism, conquest, and plunder. He's just a member of a losing team complaining that the game was rigged. And? Maybe in his next life he'll get to be a conquistador.

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hm

Lol well there's a complete dickhead's response to Coates.

ameritude

Look, I get it. If I was born anything other than a straight white man, I'd probably be consumed by an unquenchable rage too. But that wouldn't entitle me to anything. Nobody's entitled to anything they can't grab and hold. If you happen to live under a system that treats people equitably, awesome; I'm all for that. I hope to move to a place like that someday. In the meantime, I try to be nice to everyone I encounter in my own daily life. But human beings (in large groups) are mostly stupid, violent and callous as hell when it comes to protecting their little patch of ground. Collective altruism is a wish that's never gonna come true.

https://vine.co/v/ieKI9rebnEB

wait a second

just out of curiosity how does this make you feel

http://i.imgur.com/BAQo9we.jpg

just out of curiosity how does this make you feel

Re-read these three sentences and see if you can guess:

If you happen to live under a system that treats people equitably, awesome; I'm all for that. I hope to move to a place like that someday. In the meantime, I try to be nice to everyone I encounter in my own daily life.

where are you c+ping these from?

coates was maybe exaggerating a bit for the sake of making a(n otherwise valid) point when he compared the level of support for a hypothetical socialist presidential candidate (a little less than half of people, and 26% of republicans) to the idea of reparations (which has 6% support among white people). it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison

^given the pose and the set of her mouth and eyebrows, that pic could just as easily be William F. Buckley in drag.

Re-read these three sentences and see if you can guess:

If you happen to live under a system that treats people equitably, awesome; I'm all for that. I hope to move to a place like that someday. In the meantime, I try to be nice to everyone I encounter in my own daily life.

what about the sentence before that (Nobody's entitled to anything they can't grab and hold)? also what does trying to be nice to people you encounter in daily life have to do with thinking there's no such thing as justice?

deal from strength or get crushed every time

anyway TNC's thing is that these points have to be raised and hammered home and that the idea has to be inflicted on white people at every opportunity to force them to deal with it. And Bernie brushing it off is the opposite of dealing with it, and he's running from the left so he should be exactly the white person who ought to come to grips with it and address it seriously, so everything is injustice and life sucks and nothing will change. But the struggle is all there is, so on we row, Sisyphus etc etc

I liked it better when Coates' kids were younger and he would dip into comic books and the Civil War and just be geeky about stuff - in a way the discovery of his life's purpose while doing the research on the epic Case For Reparations piece is also what kind of ruined him. He hates fun now and it makes me sad.

no way, he's still fun, at least judging by his twitter stuff

on twitter TNC basically just posts about comic books and video games like 80 percent of the time

I liked it better when Coates' kids were younger and he would dip into comic books

I've got good news for you, then

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheSewer/news/?a=130152