Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

yeah they will have an insane misogynist hatred instead

xxp

lol otm

idk where yr getting this "partisan landscape will be less divisive" stuff from, it shows no signs of abating on the GOP side

i said where - legislators and thought leaders in the movement who seem dissatisfied with the party and might not want to stay in lockstep esp in an environment w/ major dem wins

idk if you've noticed but those "legislators and thought leaders", those guys are losing. Boehner resigned, Cantor got primaried, the establishment prez candidates are all in the shitter

the GOP will hate Sanders as much as they hate Obama and the Arkansawyers.

in that environment, they will cling more desperately to whoever wins under the GOP brand, because they will be afraid of losing.

xp

the GOP will hate Sanders

Sanders will never win but of course this goes without saying, how else would they approach a liberal Jew

isn't Jew = socialist?

I can't really picture the majority of Republicans that I've met as anti-Semites but they are definitely scared shitless of socialism

yeah don't forget how virulently republicans detested bill clinton, starting with the elite dc crowd and then spreading to everyone else via the still-insane-to-me whitewater investigation

that whole saga, leading to the supreme court declaring the presidency for gwb is so next-level i just hope that one day we produce the shakespeare worthy of setting it down in fiction

I still think the GOP loathed Bill Clinton more than Obama (and, yeah, the Beltway class aka Sally Quinn types allying with them didn't help); they hated the sight of him.

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if Obama makes it through 2 terms without being assassinated I will consider it a minor miracle

I don't recall anyone being afraid Bill Clinton was conducting military maneuvers as part of a sinister plot to implement martial law and stay in office indefinitely

I like how Οὖτις prefaces nearly every post with "Sanders will never win." Such certainty!

hey it's possible the sun won't rise tomorrow but, y'know, I'd put money on it

clinton was accused personally of multiple murders in print and on radio among other things.

i mean obviously i know where you're coming from but this wave of visceral disgust towards democratic presidents has been a consistent motif of republican discourse since clinton.

otoh the GOP doesn't believe in the legitimacy of any Democratic president. They hated Clinton because he was poor white, didn't hide his appetite, was popular, and a Democrat. The GOP hates Obama because he's black, is cool headed, relatively popular, and a Democrat.

I don't recall anyone being afraid Bill Clinton was conducting military maneuvers as part of a sinister plot to implement martial law and stay in office indefinitely

― Οὖτις,

Have you eve watched The Clinton Chronicles? Hillary had Vince Foster killed because he was going to tell Bill about their affair. And Bill ran drugs out of Mena airport in Arkansas.

sounds like a bunch of sore losers

visceral disgust towards democratic presidents has been a consistent motif of republican discourse since clinton.

I'd go back at least to Lee Atwater, and that's just in my lifetime

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V9P9CD1DL._SX299_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

maybe they'll have someone come along some day and #win at every. single. thing.

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/03/01/arts/subINAUGURAL/subINAUGURAL-master675.jpg

LOVED Poppy Bush's work on Let's Dance.

I respect that Atwater's guitar is actually plugged in.

Atwater's all "damn I gotta cop that lick"

Great Trump quote: "I'm winning with the smart people...I'm winning with the not-so-smart people too!"

reminds me of what Senator Roman Hruska said about one of Nixon's SCOTUS nominees.

I don't recall anyone being afraid Bill Clinton was conducting military maneuvers as part of a sinister plot to implement martial law and stay in office indefinitely

You didn't hang out in the right part of the internet then. The "Vince Foster was assassinated" and "chemtrails" crowd was all over this.

Another great one from Trump: "There'd be a role for her in my administration, but I'm not sure she wants that."

("Please, please, please don't want that.")

You didn't hang out in the right part of the internet then. The "Vince Foster was assassinated" and "chemtrails" crowd was all over this.

and this was all before you had WND bombarding granny's inbox with this shit. Clinton Chronicles Redux is going to be bonkers.

even so, i have to agree that the Obama Derangement Syndrome seems more intense than CDS did. or maybe i was just paying more attention this time. it probably has something to do with the mass influx of racist grandparents and internet "libertarians" on social media.

also apparently this impresses no one but me, she is vastly more experienced

I don't think she is. Bernie's been in congress 25 years.

lol

Bernie's been in congress 25 years

Biggest strike against him IMO.

the internet was just as crazy in '95, but it was much, much smaller.

i see no evidence that the outcome of the 2016 election will improve the functioning of the government, bipartisanship, or the long-term survivability of the republican party. i guess it depends on whether you think the fourth party system has gone past the event horizon or not.

Another Ghost of Christmas Past weighs in:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/01/herman_cain_the_trump_phenomenon_is_winning_over_black_women.html

Take it from him, he knows a little something about winning over women.

lol

― Frederik B

I guess it's predictable that someone would respond in this way but I don't see why someone could not just as easily lol at Clinton's experience overall.

Or not lol.

long-term survivability of the republican party.

Maybe it's just a matter of nomenclature, but when will this finally come to pass? Because the Republicans (or Tea Party) seem to be doing just fine. Sure, they may not get the White House any time soon, but they've been doing well everywhere else. State/local elections, congress, governors, etc. Right? Between that and the current composition of the Supreme Court, the Republicans have been at least as effective in halting, slowing or reversing progress as the democrats have been at passing progressive legislation. And yeah, I think the ACA and halting deportations and whatnot are positive developments, but their security sadly seems sort of tenuous.

yeah, I'm extremely sick of hearing about the impending doom of the GOP. Wake me up when it actually happens. It pisses me off even more because Democrats seem to have the attitude of sit back and wait until the republicans blow up, meanwhile fewer and fewer Democrats hold meaningful offices on both the state and national level.

if they take a hit during this election i think they'll just come back hungrier, meaner, and more willing to double down on outrageous public comments. like this guy already unofficially running for gov in pa, currently being a major roadblock to getting a budget:

"We had him down on the floor with our foot on his throat and we let him up. Next time, we won’t let him up."

http://www.politicspa.com/wagner-doubles-down-on-wolf-critique/72049/

I guess it's predictable that someone would respond in this way but I don't see why someone could not just as easily lol at Clinton's experience overall.

― timellison, Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:39 PM (2 hours ago)

especially since her "experience" amounts to eight years in the senate with basically no significant accomplishments and some pretty appalling votes and then four years as secretary of state with...also no real accomplishments. she did try to push obama in a more hawkish direction on syria but i'm not sure anyone would trumpet that as a "progressive" move.

but no denying that hillary probably gets invited on more sunday talk shows than bernie.

@jheil
This morning over coffee in NH, @ChrisChristie told me the death of GFrey hit him way harder than that of DBowie.

Well, yeah.

he's eaten a lot of lunches all by himself

this is fun: sanders in '95 going toe to toe with duke cunningham over gays in the military

https://magazine.good.is/videos/bernie-sanders-shuts-down-member-of-house

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