Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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schwantz fyi that link didn't work for me ("404 page not found")

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 22 January 2016 05:02 (eight years ago) link

Try this link

Looks like dashes at the end of a URL don't get parsed correctly?

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 05:08 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, that worked. The network of obsessives described by that article seems like something Pynchon might have conjured.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 22 January 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link

Literally spending millions on warehouses full of jars of pee!

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 05:58 (eight years ago) link

In other news, this is pretty great.

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 05:59 (eight years ago) link

And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZW5trdE5o

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 06:06 (eight years ago) link

i don't want to overinterpret the results of one very limited study, but if these findings hold i feel like they could be relevant to the trajectory of american democracy:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/humans-arent-as-cooperative-as-we-thought-but-make-up-for-it-via-stupidity/

diana krallice (rushomancy), Friday, 22 January 2016 12:25 (eight years ago) link

it's not like stupidity in America or the human race is a new thing

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

also, reading some news this morning, and I'm seriously wondering if Bernie is pulling Clinton to the left, seems just as likely he'll push her to the right

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

this "pushing" shit is fiction now and forever, rhetoric aside

DNC and Rodham just admitting her 'progressivism' is 0% convincing

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

dude c'mon. why do you keep calling her "rodham," it's like a weird version of when righties were doing the "barack HUSSEIN obama" thing. her name's clinton, whether you hate her or not at least call her by her name.

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Barry Soetoro

rmde bob (will), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link

never forget
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gT0AAOSwBadTqPMz/s-l300.jpg

hunangarage, Friday, 22 January 2016 15:01 (eight years ago) link

just like cutting her meal-ticket antifeminist factor

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link

also u mighjt wanna consider the Bess Truman "It took me 20 years to get him to say 'manure'" factor.

Anyway my time is better spent on more important matters like a DHless National League. Ta!

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link

(I do think 'Rodham' celebrates the return of the Goldwater Girl within her that is roaring back now as it hasn't in a half century)

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I think it celebrates what a sexist fool you are

a (waterface), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link

iron my shirt

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

no tickee no Hillary

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link

my last two November prez votes btw

2012: Jill Stein
2008: Cynthia McKinney

but enough about me, thx for all the fish

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 January 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah that's an amazing connection

goole, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

speaking of amazing connections with racists

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/690562515500032000

our next president has retweeted a message from "WhiteGenocideTM"

goole, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

one for the "Is Trump a Fascist" thread

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link

this is a good summary of trumpism imo

http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996

goole, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZVul9QWcAQ1Yjr.jpg

laffer? i barely know her

mookieproof, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

are those effective or marginal tax rates

pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

I refuse to read articles

pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

xp to self: the writer is a trad-conservative himself, mind you

Plenty of others have noticed the parallels between Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump. Some have seen that Trump is attracting the "radical middle" social base and taking on the Caesarist, almost Latin American-style populism that Francis recommended. Buchanan was recently asked about why Trump was having all the success that he did not enjoy, when he is running on so many of the issues Buchanan did 20 years ago. Buchanan said that it was because the returns are in on the policies he criticized 20 years ago. All of this is true.

The Trump phenomenon does seem to be sui generis. There are not squadrons of Trumpistas in the Republican Congress. And his celebrity persona, his extremely unusual and independent financial power, his felicity for not just recognizing but channeling the grievances of his supporters is unmatched. It's hard to imagine anyone else rebuilding his coalition of Middle American radicals and fringier, race-obsessed "alt-right" nationalists.

goole, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

some have seen

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

Has anybody brought up that the Hillary campaign font is terrible

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

Trump called it very low energy iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

"sans serif fonts are for LOSERS"

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

While it may lose her some single-issue voters in the primaries, she retains the option of pivoting to Papyrus during the general election.

mose allison brie larson (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Though really Mistral was the hot display typeface of the late 80s/early 90s, Hillary's headbandy heyday.

mose allison brie larson (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

someone plz plz photoshop Hilz on the Mistrial cover

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

"The Hillary font is very bad, very bad. First thing I do when I'm president, that font is outta here!"

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

"We're gonna get the absolute BEST typographers in here, have them bring in some really classy modernist semi-grotesques. It'll be great. You're gonna get tired of how much our typefaces win."

mose allison brie larson (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

ha this is similar to what i was saying about this primary but says you should vote for clinton anyway

http://bottlemagazine.com/2016/01/19/on-hillary-and-bernie/

goole, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

good piece until the last couple sentences.

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

That piece is so dumb. Pls. explain how Hillary is "better at politics."

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah those are the sentences I'm referring to!

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

some otherwise smart people conveniently seem to be taking bernie's campaign promises at face value, and are under the impression that a president bernie is going to be the equivalent of house republicans. i'd say it was naive if it weren't so transparently dishonest

k3vin k., Friday, 22 January 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

wait so you think Bernie is going to compromise with Ryan's caucus? I'm confused

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

I don't think Bernie is going to achieve all of his policy fantasies, but he will start with the goalposts in the right place, at least. And unlike House repubs, his positions are mostly popular with the electorate!

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah but that popularity doesn't matter

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

like, it doesn't move those House votes

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

It might help move those House members out of the House. I mean, probably not, but I guess I'd rather hear real arguments over the issues rather than extreme right vs. sorta-kinda-left-but-everyone should-come-together arguments.

schwantz, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

i found that piece pretty glib and self-righteous, particularly the smirky dismissal of sanders's concern with campaign finance reform. also find it hard to swallow the idea that we can credit clinton for obama's assertiveness with executive orders.

i keep hearing the assertion that clinton is "good at politics," but nobody ever seems to back it up -- like, what is the evidence of that? there are plenty of ppl over the last 30 years who have been genuinely good at politics -- nancy pelosi comes to mind. what impressive political feats has clinton been responsible for?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 22 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

she's not good at politics!

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link


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