Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

*reads furiously*

xp RealClearPolitics has Kasich in third place, having recently dropped down from second! Though that is largely due to one wackadoo poll that had Kasich within 7 points of Trump.

lol the times is really going all out today

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/as-supreme-court-clerk-ted-cruz-made-death-penalty-his-cause.html?_r=0

Playing basketball in the building’s “highest court in the land,” he said “my bad” to the colleagues he elbowed wildly on his way to the hoop.

...

The year Mr. Cruz and the others clerked, many of the roughly 80 cases taken up by the justices made major news. For a case about the constitutionality of a law regulating Internet pornography, Mr. Cruz watched X-rated sex scenes on a computer with Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice O’Connor.

...

But Mr. Cruz usually reserved his enthusiasm for his unsparing death penalty memos or the late nights when a prisoner from the appeals circuit under Chief Justice Rehnquist’s oversight was slated for execution. On those nights, when he was responsible for addressing the flurry of 11th-hour defense motions, he would rouse the chief justice at home, give his recommendation, get the chief justice’s vote and then write up a memo that explained why the chief justice had voted to deny an emergency postponement of the execution.

Per custom, Mr. Cruz, whom some clerks recalled as speaking flippantly of the execution during those solemn nights, would circulate that memo to the other clerks on duty, who would then call their bosses to vote on the appeal.

During one of those late-night executions, some clerks received an additional message from Mr. Cruz on the internal email pleading for more collegiality, especially toward him.

“We should all try and get along,” Mr. Cruz wrote.

Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump

that's Junior; i keep forgetting the old one is dead

Today I learned in the Florida recount story that Bush, presumably W, is a moderate.

Mr. Cruz watched X-rated sex scenes on a computer with Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice O’Connor.

excellent tableau

ha no shit? i don't think i knew that

xp to Dr M

xps lol @ "establishment candidates' prisoners' dilemma"

http://www.modernmedicaldictionary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/three_stooges_explained-e1428012934830.jpg

A more powerful analogy, I believe.

ha

RE: the possibility of Trump to win over a majority of republican voters, if you dig into the less reported sub-poll results it suggests that quite a few could be convinced. take the latest CNN poll (pg. 15):

http://i.imgur.com/lSGrAFi.jpg

81% wouldn't be "upset" with a Trump nomination. and that number might increase as the election heats up and apocalyptic warnings begin circulating. not being "upset" doesn't translate into votes, of course. but trump beats both cruz and rubio on "enthusiastic" support, as well.

short version: he fucked over his only friend in the senate to go willie horton (among other things)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/why-dc-hates-ted-cruz/426915/

Hil said some weird shit about Reconstruction and the Confederacy last night, so already gearing up for South Carolina

short version: he fucked over his only friend in the senate to go willie horton (among other things)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/why-dc-hates-ted-cruz/426915/

― goole, Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:52 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I lol to myself every time I hear about criminal justice reform having 'bipartisan' support. yeah right until its actually in the news then its gonna get demagogue'd to death.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/hillary-clinton-reconstruction/427095/

xp yeah you're right. this isn't primary related, but tom cotton is playing baby cruz on the bill now

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/criminal-justice-tom-cotton-218121#ixzz3yIHgljiF

"Hillary Clinton is no longer a college student. And the fact that a presidential candidate would imply that Jim Crow and Reconstruction were equal, that the era of lynching and white supremacist violence would have been prevented had that same violence not killed Lincoln, and that the violence was simply the result of rancor, the absence of a forgiving spirit, and an understandably 'discouraged' South is chilling."

hey balls, looks like Clinton may be Charlotte Rampling or perhaps Scarlett O'Hara huh

yeah huh, stunning turnabout from 2008

How much forgiveness were they expecting? Their damn fool war-mongering cost more lives than any other war we've fought to date, by a large margin. Southern truculence was always the source of the problem and fucking South Carolina was the worst of all.

here's one for mh: trump getting into it with bob vander plaats, cruz endorser and terrible man

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/692012875775414273
https://twitter.com/bobvanderplaats/status/692038631578439682

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/692045112872820736
https://twitter.com/bobvanderplaats/status/692046785859039232

every time i see a trump tweet i think of this

https://twitter.com/crushingbort/status/685141925507272704

joe arpaio is on his way to iowa to campaign for trump

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/three-more-reasons-trump-will-be-the-nominee

the three reasons are the new CNN poll (eh), the endorsement of Falwell Jr (which is significant if you thought that evangelicals wouldn't vote for him for some reason), and a quote from a relatively obscure congressman from PA which argues that Trump is more malleable than Cruz.

The malleability thing is interesting, though. to the extent that trump describes policies, he does so in an extraordinarily vague and often inconsistent way. who knows whether he's being as clear as he can be or whether it's calculated, but it does give him plenty of room to adjust on many issues, both during the primaries and also the general election, if he's the candidate.

trump can be the nominee, it'll be amazing. all those pale blue states will become a darker shade of blue.

they trumped the white fandango

Of course he is

Xpost

Of the various establishment-for-Trump-rather-than-Cruz theories I've read, the most credible one to me is that, with Trump, he loses the election then disappears. If they nominate Cruz, even if he loses the election, he won't be going anywhere (like Palin to an extent, although even more so).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZrP5NNWEAA-Icc.png

LOL

looks like she's not getting joseph miller's vote

"Chelsea's fucking kid can pay for her own education. Creepy little spoiled brat."

she might if she blows it again and runs in 2024
xp

Quite a press conference (Trump)..."Do you apologize? Do you apologize? Do you apologize? Do you apologize?" Never seen that before.

i've lost track of what he's supposed to be apologizing for

That was Trump hectoring a reporter who quoted him--it was a question on abortion--but, according to Trump, left out part of the quote. He cut the reporter short, came back to him a few minutes later, and began by asking for apology. And then said "Do you apologize?" eight or nine times in a row.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/republican-ted-cruz-claims-about-rape-and-guns-in-australia-slapped-down-20160126-gme0ah.html

"And as you know, Hugh, after Australia did that [gun buyback program], the rate of sexual assaults, the rate of rapes, went up significantly, because women were unable to defend themselves," Mr Cruz told the radio host.

The Washington Post analysis found no significant spike or drop but a gradual increase in sexual assault rates over the decade after the 1996 changes in Australia.

I'm sick of fucking right-wing nutjobs lying about Australia and guns. We Australians are just sitting here watching America as a sort of horror show of ungovernability and narcissistic delusions.

Ha, Trump is just skipping the next debate.

He's upset because Fox made fun of him.

Many news outlets covered Univision Communications’ purchase last week of a stake in The Onion, the world’s leading news publication. According to NPR, Univision bought a 40 percent controlling interest in the company, and also acquired the option to buy the remainder of The Onion in the future.

But what’s gotten no attention at all is that Haim Saban, Hillary Clinton’s biggest fan and financial supporter, is Univision’s co-owner, chairman, and CEO. Saban and his wife, Cheryl, are Hillary Clinton’s top financial backers, having given $2,046,600 to support her political campaigns and at least $10 million more to the Clinton Foundation, on whose board Cheryl Saban sits. The Sabans are also generous supporters of the overall Democratic Party infrastructure, donating, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a total of $16.1 million since 1989 to Democratic and liberal candidates, party committees, leadership PACs, and federally focused 527s....

Beyond Saban’s deep connections to the Clintons, Onion staffers likely have taken note of his statement that “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”...

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/26/ha-ha-hillary-clintons-top-financial-supporter-now-controls-the-onion/

I love how you quoted that verbatim and left in the reference to "the world's leading news publication" without the link

there goes journalism I guess

i got fish to fry, man

Said Trump: “Let’s see how much money Fox is going to make on the debate without me. It’s time that somebody plays grownup.”

https://politicalwire.com/2016/01/26/trump-will-not-attend-next-debate/

here's an example of trump's vague language as an advantage:

http://i.imgur.com/NKK4ZKx.png

you know, pretty irrevocable. now he can go either way (and in fact, right now he has a twitter poll thing going asking whether or not he should debate: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/692045676079874048) and have a distraction ready to go in case someone bothered calling him out.

Gets fun at 19:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHHiJXXx9Cg

this trump debate boycott/power play would be a whole lot funnier -- and it IS hilarious -- if the whole reason for the boycott wasn't his shitty misogynist treatment of megyn kelly

Obviously Kelly's part of it--he's still sulking over the first debate--but I think it has more to do with a) Fox's press release today, and b) some kind of tactical move where he "walks away from the table," a negotiating skill that his big book (the one that's the second best book after the Bible) claims is crucial. And he thinks Iowa's already a lock and he has nothing to gain by showing up.

If he does follow through--he can still change his mind, although that might not look so good--it seems kind of risky to me. But every bizarre thing he says and does works out perfectly, so what do I know.