Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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I can't even figure out how Trump is going to bring manufacturing back to the US (although I'd guess it'd have something to do with corporate tax cuts) let alone how he can make Christianity "the majority" again.

"It's harder to be a Christian now" because I'm being forced to acknowledge those who aren't.

nobody said it was supposed to be easy (even J.C. iirc)

it's almost like ppl generally become more conservative as they become older

― Mordy, Monday, February 1, 2016 11:42 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't have anything handy but iirc the evidence does not support this. as i understand it society becomes more liberal as time passes, people generally do not change their views much but in comparison to younger generations are seen as more conservative

people don't get more conservative as they age and that's not even what we're seeing in those capsule interviews

people get more conservative as they get tech industry jobs

or occasionally out of vengefulness if they work in a supplanted industry like coal mining, those ones seem fairly noble as far as wrongheaded reasons for being conservative go

M is talking exclusively about the Dem side, i suspect

my fave one kinda:

"It took me ten years to make my first million, and then that exponentially grew. People say Trump’s not nice. Well, I’m not nice, either. Sometimes harsh words will motivate people. If you don’t want to get in that ditch and sweat and dig a mile for a couple thousand bucks, then don’t yell at me because I have money and you don’t. It feels like we’re just roller-coasting down, down, down, and I’m waiting for the climb back up, man, and I haven’t seen it yet. Everybody is scared when they’re going down and not going up. I’m sick of being scared."

cocky...and scared!

it's like a cornucopia of fear. all kinds for everyone!

Dear Christians: the rest of us have no desire to curb your practice or celebration of Christianity. That you feel threated by having to acknowledge and accept non-Christians makes me question the integrity of your religious beliefs to the same extent that expressions of homophobia make me wonder how much the homophobe is secretly dreaming of weiners.

you might be looking for this: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html#comments

Weird that these people who vaguely complain about all of the nebulous shit that's wrong and making the country go to hell are pretty much like the majority of what's actually wrong with the country. A little TOO ironic, yeah I really do think.

so beautiful:

“I think in terms of this heroin epidemic, one of the things that I believe is when I was growing up we had strong families with a support system, we had neighborhoods that we could go and get into a baseball game, a football game, get into a fight.”

kinda long for a bumper sticker, but catchy nonetheless:

"I just want to feel safe like I felt like I did with George W. after 9/11. He had just taken office, and that kind of ruined his presidency, in a way. Our president now isn’t tough at all. I don’t think he cares. I think he’s an economic — I can’t say Hitler. But part of me feels like he does the national debt on purpose, because I feel like he hates America."

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Brett OTM

Brett Giese, 34, sales

"Oblama equals economic Hitler who does national debt because hates America. Words...hard. Thinking...hurts. Must...punch...something."

It's really okay to just say, "I don't actually know that much and I'm not even a little articulate so maybe I shouldn't offer an opinion to your publication."

yeah, really, we won't even BE here in 200 years:

"There’s a great deal of disappointment with Mr. Obama and what he’s done. Even among my staunchly Democratic friends, they sort of hang their head whenever his name is brought up. He feels that global warming is more important than people getting killed in San Bernardino. People look at that and say, ‘What is he, crazy? You want to spend all these dollars that we don’t have on stuff that ain’t going to happen for 200 years? Are you crazy?’"

Brett makes me realize it is time to take back America.

k3v: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379413000875

This paper examines how ageing and generational formative experiences affect vote choices in Britain. Using a combination of panel data and assumptions about party fortunes we estimate ageing effects. These are then entered into a model using cross-sectional data from 1964 to 2010 to estimate generational differences in vote choice. Ageing increases the likelihood of a Conservative vote substantially, but there is no trend towards lower rates of Conservative voting among newer generations. There are however identifiable political generations corresponding with periods of Conservative dominance: voters who came of age in the 1930s, 1950s and 1980s are ceteris paribus somewhat more Conservative. Our method therefore lends some support to theories of political generations, but also demonstrates the considerable impact of ageing on vote choice.

mm is Brett single?

every time i think i've found the iowa state fair blue ribbon prize winner i find yet another candidate!!

Jane Biddick, 57, music teacher
From: Marion, Iowa
Supporting: Trump

"When I heard Trump was running, I dropped my hat. That was it. I couldn’t believe it. It was kind of like — you know, if you found the mate you’d been waiting for, or the home of your dreams. I just knew that it was perfect. There’s a lot of us who try and try, and we hit and miss. A lot of us don’t succeed to the level that he has. He’s like a Carnegie. You know the Carnegie family? Or one of those people in history — the Ford family, for example. He’s a Henry Ford in our lifetime."

man, some real competition out there...

When I heard Trump was running, I dropped my hat

Did she mean, "When I heard Trump was running, I pooped"?

Huh, I never realized before that "dropped my hat" was a colloquialism meaning "lost the last of my tenuous grasp on reality".

he pooped a hat, it was amazing, just incredible, the greatest

Or one of those people in history — the Ford family, for example. He’s a Henry Ford in our lifetime.

^^^^amazing

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"but part of me feels like he does the national debt on purpose"

wonderful

Trump is totally like one of those people in history. Like an Amelia Earhart or a Ghandi or a Judas or a William Bell or a Button Gwinnett. He's a Button Gwinnett in our lifetime.

man, a guy just came in from one of the vermont hill towns and he only comes into town here once a month to drink and he was PISSED that i didn't have the david allen coe album that his mom wanted. i didn't ask him who he's voting for...

The most amazing thing about that @dick_nixon article was the photos of him with Kasich. Nixon's head was enormous. Like twice the size of a human head.

okay another drunk hillbilly just came in to tell me the story about the time their dog ate their best AC/DC album and i realize i'm being punished by a christian god for laughing too hard at that ny magazine article...

about the time their dog ate their best AC/DC album

Their dog...or OBAMA?

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Democracy is a ridiculous form of government, and so is whatever this shit we have is.

so what's the answer then, answer man?

I'm starting a punk band called Economic Hitler, who's with me?

since the question is which republican candidate we would vote for, there is no answer.

I can see where eight years of having our collective annihilation delayed would be pretty galling to self-loathing people who are trying to maintain a passive-but-steady suicide spiral by denying climate change and voting for Bushes and Trumps and shit like that. "Thanks, Obama!" indeed.

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people always say be more like finland or whatever but the examples they use are always places as big as brooklyn in size with five people in them. which just seem easier to manage then this messy monster here. but maybe i'm wrong. maybe we could all be finnish with a minimum of fuss and muss. maybe the scale doesn't matter.

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scowler!

the non-presidential election background at the state level--

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/opinion/campaign-stops/the-republican-partys-50-state-solution.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fthomas-b-edsall&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=collection&_r=0

Seven years ago, Democrats had a commanding lead in state legislatures, controlling both legislative chambers in 27 states, nearly double the 14 controlled by Republicans. They held 4082 state senate and house seats, compared to the Republicans’ 3223.

Sweeping Republican victories at the state level in 2010 and 2014 transformed the political landscape.

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By 2015, there were Republican majorities in 70 percent — 68 of 98 — of the nation’s partisan state houses and senates, the highest number in the party’s history. (Nebraska isn’t counted in because it has a non-partisan, unicameral legislature.) Republicans controlled the legislature and governorship in 23 states, more than triple the seven under full Democratic control.

What’s changed seems to be the result of the relatively recent nationalization of state campaign financing,” Morgan Kousser, a professor of history at Caltech (and, as it happens, Thad Kousser’s father), wrote in an email:

The Koch brothers understand the importance of controlling state legislatures; George Soros doesn’t. I’m not sure why this should be the case, but since we’re really talking about a relatively small number of mega-donors who have caused this, it’s a rather restricted question.