I just watched _The Third Man_ in full for the first time

lol feel like i've read that one before but idk where.

almost revived this last night to post this diss from the OW/jaglom book:

He didn't take the movie seriously. It wasn't a "Graham Greene" work. He gave me a line that I was supposed to say from atop the Wiener Reisenrad, the Ferris wheel: "Look at those people down there--they look like ants."

How is that book, btw?

pretty irresistible, some repetitions, some interesting variations. jaglom doesn't harry welles on film-school details the way bogdanovich did, so welles pretty much just raconteurs on his own terms, which is both good and bad. terrific stories all over of course and plenty of the kind of dirt that was kept out of the earlier book (that letter bogdanovich prints as explanation for redacting some ill-spoken-of name -- "always remember that your heart is god's little garden, yours sincerely, louisa may alcott" -- is the kind of letter jaglom didn't get), with much less talk about welles' actual work (hilites like kane and t3m excepted). so you trade the sequences where bogdanovich forces welles to talk about the camerawork in the trial for sequences like welles cursing out richard burton or rolling eyes at "little dusty hoffman" and of course

HJ: Bogdanovich called. He talked about--

OW: Wait! I'll tell you what he talked about: he talked about Bogdanovich!

[...]

HJ: Mask is about a boy born with a deformed face. He apparently picked this subject because the first play he took Dorothy [Stratten] to see was The Elephant Man. She identified with it, beause her great beauty was similar to the grotesque ugliness of the Elephant Man. In that the extremeness of each of them--extreme beauty and extreme ugliness--separated them from the common folk of the world.

OW: Shit!

which have their own pleasures obv. most valuable stuff for people who've already seen a lot of talk shows and pored over the other book is prob the transcriptions of their business talk, as jaglom hustles for him. a closer window than i'd had before into his late career.

he claims cecil b demille invented the fascist salute; idk if that one was out there before. "he had to think of something for all those extras to do, you know ... i've had arguments with historians about this, in rome. i say, you come back when you can prove to me everybody saluted like that."

the stuff on Reagan and Ike made me chuckle -- Orson, always after the big brass ring

jaglom forgets a name at some point and orson pounces: "you need reagan cards!"

and of course:

Houseman has had twenty commercials on camera. I’ve had one. I’m in terrible financial trouble…. If Wesson Oil would let me say that Wesson Oil is good, instead of Houseman, I’d be delighted, but nobody will take me for a commercial…. A real mystery: why they prefer Houseman, with his petulant, arrogant, unpleasant manner…. It’s a very weird and terrible situation. I don’t know where to turn… If I got just one commercial, it would change my life!… There is no “meantime.” It’s the grocery bill. I haven’t got the money. It’s that urgent…. Get me on that fuckin’ screen and my life is changed.

yeah the houseman nemesis stuff is black-comedy-worthy

I'm reading the daunting McGilligan bio. Merv Griffin reunited Houseman and Welles in the late '70s. They hugged, reminisced on set, walked their separate ways, and never saw watch other again.

man I gotta read this

OW such a bullshitter, he seemed to believe most of it tho.

I mentioned in the Vincent Price thread what a dreary late career Joseph Cotten had... At least Petulia is a real movie, but most everything after that seems to be dismal one-dimensional variations on same (Dr Phibes, Soylent Green, you name it). Funny I don't remember him in the TV film of A Delicate Balance with Kate Hepburn, gotta rewatch that...

in the McGilligan book Welles, who loved to flirt with men, soothes Griffin's hurt feelings after Orson reminds him that Cotten won't go on the show because "he doesn't like homos, you know.

yeah Christopher Isherwood had an incident w/ Cotten

maybe he hated most of us thinking that Jed Leland was a homo

Welles, who loved to flirt with men

"when i'm with homosexuals, i become a little homosexual, to make them feel at home, you know"

I knew OW and Micheál MacLiammóir had a fraught relationship dating back to OW's apprenticeship in Irish theater but didn't know OW spent one entire production flirting and leading on MacLiammóir's partner, who, of course, was the director.

His theatre mentor MacLiammoir (? Iago in that film) was pretty flamin'. xp

Anyway, I'm DRUNK.

MUST everything have to be about ORSON? Carol Reed weeps at this revive.

No -- I mean his stay in Ireland in 1932. MacLiammoir's partner directed Welles' first big break on stage.

These are good stories

These are good stories

These are good stories

Edited by Peter Biskind, America's foremost film historian

Saw this again last night...Checked my Letterboxd page and I didn't list this--it must be my favourite film that's not in my Top 100. I think I know someone who models her whole being on the Alida Valli character.

http://mistercomfypants.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/third-man-anna.png?w=450

this movie is a bit too 'easy' for JRo

Welles — who hated the Harry Lime character too much to have been able to make him palatable in a movie of his own — was turned by Korda, Greene, and Reed into such a charming monster that most moviegoers have preferred to remember him that way: Welles without his customary self-critique, playing the guiltless profiteer. Moreover, because this is one of Greene’s “entertainments,” we’re not shown any of the children in the Vienna hospital who’ve been treated with Lime’s diluted penicillin — unlike Martins, who’s taken there by a British officer (Trevor Howard) who correctly surmises that seeing the children will goad him into betraying his best friend. In other words, watered-down penicillin was actually sold on the Vienna black market during this period, but Greene was more interested in the effect of this on Martins than on the audience. “We had no desire to move people’s political emotions,” he wrote years later in his autobiography Ways of Escape. “We wanted to entertain them, to frighten them a little, even to make them laugh.”

http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2016/04/welles-in-the-lime-light/

In the pub yesterday afternoon I got to watch the last 15-20 minutes, muted with subtitles. It was still a very thrilling, engaging and moving experience. Of course, I was drunk...

Er war gleich toten.
Er war gleich toten

Holly: You ever hear of 'The Lone Rider of Santa Fe'?
Calloway: Can't say as I have.
Holly
: 'Death at Double X Ranch,' uh, 'Raunch'

very popular, sir.

How long can one stay here on this stage money?

anything really wrong with your papers?

they're forged.

...why??

do you believe, mr. martins, in the stream of consciousness?

i said: where would you put mr. james joyce? in what caTEGory?

(you could ask him the same question about harry)

(punches Holly in the face) *do* be careful, sir.

^otm. thought about posting this myself

It WASN'T the German gin.

we should have dug deeper than a grave.

I don't think they'd look for a bullet wound after you'd hit that ground.

oh, the same old indigestion. these are the only things that help: these tablets. these are the last. can't get them anywhere in europe anymore.

Is that what you say to people after death? "Goodness, that's awkward"?

sorry for the gravediggers. hard work.

Paine. Paine.

i read a bit of it. looked as though it was going to be pretty good!

Look at yourself. They have a name for faces like that.

holly. what a silly name.

t's all right, Paine. He's only a scribbler with too much drink in him.

i'd say you're doing something pretty dangerous this time.

yes?

mixing fact and fiction.

should i make it all fact?

oh, no, mr. martins. i say stick to fiction. straight fiction.

i'm too far along with the book, mr. popesco.

haven't you ever scrapped a book?

never.

pity!

Mm, yes?

Showing at the nearest art cinema in a week or so - never seen it on the big screen.