― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
oh, begone intentionality! i think most movies are compendia of bits with lots of redundancies put in to keep front office happy. it's always been like that(?). spielberg is a total enigma as a man -- i have read a biography of him and know NOTHING about him.
but cutting through or ignoring the 'greatest generation' blah i've been impressed by the action scenes in the saving private ryan/band of brothers projects.
as with albums, ignore the rubbish bits.
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
My hyperbole is totally correct, watch JP again and wait for it...that final shot of the freaking T-Rex. Claymation dinosaur, why you ruin shot all the time? I would've liked Jurassic Park better if there was no dinosaurs, but instead Richard Dreyfuss and Roy Scheider.
Anyway I am still interested in finding out how Spielberg classics like Catch Me If You Can or The Terminal or The Lost World explore more disturbing, dark, and adult themes than Bamboozled and are more complex than The Big Lebowski! I'll give Morbius Soderberg.
XPOST ARGH STOP IT WITH THOSE MORPHED ANIMALS
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Does this make him classic, or just Darryl Zanuck reborn?
I stick with my B+ assessement. He has good chops, and a consistent record. I like him OK, but nothing he makes excites me much.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
aimless -- steve is hurt, but he will try to improve his record for next semester.
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
what's your point here exactly? that people in film school like him because he's successful? wtf does that have to do with anything
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
>how about you discuss the "disturbing adult themes" in, say, Catch Me If You Can?<
No, not a classic. Quite a decent Missing/Inadequate Dad Complex meditation (major Spielberg motif), tho, with both Leo and Walken putting in unusually deep performances before returning to check-cashing roles.
The Terminal: America as Last Best Melting Pot AND Dubya's Fortress ("America is closed").
JP2 was the last of his I skipped.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I think Walken's performance in Catch Me If You Can is completely immemorable, as immemorable as he gets, at least. Also, I'm not sure how I understand in what way Savion Glover's character in Bamboozled is any more of a "2-D sketch" than Leonardo DiCaprio's character here (note: this does not imply that DiCaprio's character IS a "2-D sketch"). And yes, the 25th Hour beats the crap out of both of these movies, and anything Spielberg's done in, oh, 10 or 15 years. I was keeping off the sucka punches on the "Spielberg more provocative than Lee" comment but if you wanna kick yourself in a metaphorical discussion-genitals go ahead!
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Not quite. Film schoolies love him because he is the archetypal film school product. Speilberg sat through all the same classes, learned all the same rigamarole as them and then he went out and became the Nu Robot Overlord of films. It sprinkles fairy dust (read: imagined money & power) over the whole film school experience.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Never said that. But Lee can't really fake provocation regularly anymore. Cine-hipsters turn to City of God, Y Tu Mama Tambien etc for that pose now.
Yeah, Walken's much more memorable sleepwalking through gangster and vampire roles, or SNL. Hey, he recites lines off the expected beats!
I was quite moved by the ending of The Terminal and chilled by A.I.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
By the same token Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't make $250 million as an actor by being chopped liver, either. Although it is rather hard to pin down exactly what his talent was. Your point being?
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― 4, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
and it STILL looked fake
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― 6, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
i read that all the "futurists" were pissed off because spielberg ignored them and just did what he wanted to anyway!!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
the worst is futurizing stuff that doesn't make any sense, like in AI... in the future cars will only need THREE wheels!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
have you seen the LA refinery lately? that IS Bladerunner.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link