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Robert Bork courageously fired Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox on behalf of Richard Nixon, when his spineless boss, Attorney General Richardson, caved in and resigned rather than do as he was told. This, more than anything else, marked him out as a man on the rise, a man you could count on when the chips were down because he put principles ahead of expediency.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

They tried to destroy Clarence Thomas. Fortunately, he was able to get on the court and is now writing some of the most important decisions.

this is baldly untrue, no?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

like, what important decisions has Thomas writte?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

Bork said that Richardson, etc insisted he stay as acting attorney general or the Justice Department would fall apart.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I don't know the whole truth. His role as public scold and GOP martyr for the next thirty years was worse.

Here's a clip of Richardson testifying on his behalf:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?10187-1/bork-nomination-day-11-part-2

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

File also under "Interesting details in wikipedia articles" and "Hoist on one's own petard"

During debate over his nomination, Bork's video rental history was leaked to the press. His video rental history was unremarkable, and included such harmless titles as A Day at the Races, Ruthless People, and The Man Who Knew Too Much. Writer Michael Dolan, who obtained a copy of the hand-written list of rentals, wrote about it for the Washington City Paper.[31] Dolan justified accessing the list on the ground that Bork himself had stated that Americans only had such privacy rights as afforded them by direct legislation. The incident led to the enactment of the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act.[32]

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

btw Bork's confirmation hearings are good TV: the last time a SCOTUS nominee gave full answers about his jurisprudence.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

Grassley already backtracking: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/17/us/politics/senator-charles-grassley-hearings-supreme-court-nominee.html?_r=0

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

like, what important decisions has Thomas writte?

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, February 16, 2016

good question. if you mean main opinions, I can't think of any. seems to me his opinions are too radical (e.g., on stare decisis) for a majority to sign on to, so they end up as concurring opinions at most.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

God I really assumed 'pack the court' was a basketball reference I mean that sounds like a good Obama move, he's 'packed the court' now the GOP are really up against it in these final plays, that Obama he's a smart guy he's got all the moves in his head, I'm quite disappointed that somebody could yknow just use a phrase as pleasing as 'pack the court' and literally mean nothing more than putting too many people into a room reserved for the purposes of hearing legal argument

Soon all logins will look like this (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link

it is a reference to a specific historical/political crisis

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Procedures_Reform_Bill_of_1937

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

Yanksplainin' to dmac

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

:)

Soon all logins will look like this (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

the Four Horsemen of Judicial Reaction

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

Republicans and conservative columnists are also vowing revenge for 2013, when Reid (during period Dems had control of the Senate) eventually invoked nuclear option to allow lower level judges and certain Exec branch appointees to be voted on by mere majority, rather than a filibuster-proof one. Republicans were blocking lots of nominees and this Reid move allowed a number of Obama appointees to finally get a vote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-nomination-process-sure-to-be-an-epic-debate/2016/02/14/63cd2cd6-d32a-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html

In 2013, when Democrats were in the Senate majority, they forced a controversial rules change, invoking the so-called “nuclear option,” to allow the approval of ­lower-court judges by a simple majority. Those changes did not apply to Supreme Court nominations, which can be filibustered, and are therefore subject to the higher 60-vote threshold. Republicans were furious about the 2013 changes, and that residual anger could be a huge obstacle for any Obama nominee.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

@chrisgeidner
OMG! CNN just asked about "The Supremes" episode of The West Wing, and whether RBG might retire and both Dems and GOP would get a nominee.

‏@dick_nixon
That program is the worst influence I've ever seen. Every day we get letters from kids who think it's the truth.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

Do members of the Supreme Court ever fly on the same plane?

Jeff, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

ride tandem bicycles iirc

gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

They use Air Force Nine, obv.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Josh Marshall on what Chuck Schumer actually said in 2007:

"We cannot afford to see Justice Stevens replaced by another Roberts of Justice Ginsburg replaced by another Alito. Given the track of this President and the experience of obfuscation at hearings, with respect to the Supreme Court at least, I will recommend to my colleagues that we should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/C7iWhr6.png

pplains, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

deep thoughts from a Corner-ite:

What if this year’s elections result in a Republican president — Ted Cruz, say — and a Democratic Senate? After the new Senate convenes, Obama would still have a couple of weeks left in his term, so he could nominate some extreme living-Constitutionalist, who would surely be confirmed. And when another vacancy came up and Cruz sent the Senate a nominee, they could say, “Drop dead! You wouldn’t consider Obama’s nominee, so we won’t consider yours.”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

republicans could still filibuster

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

I will be pleasantly surprised if they don't -- I'm not convinced the political fallout for them would be all that high, but maybe I'm underestimating voters. Republicans know what's at stake, and they don't pay much mind to civility, consistency, bipartisanship etc. anymore.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

Cruz will def filibuster

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

yeah I'm not persuaded that filibustering hurts the GOP.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link

Majorities don't filibuster.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

under the hypothetical circumstances we're discussing the dems have won the senate

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

I got that that was where you were coming from, but folks seemed to be drifting afterwards...

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

I hate the guy, but that'd be a helluva note for Harry Reid to go out on.

pplains, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

i have not been paying attention, is it remotely possible that dems will win the senate this election?

marcos, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link

definitely possible if a presidential victory leads to any sort of wave election. it's the 2010 seats that are up this year which are mostly republicans who themselves rode in on 2010 midterm R-wave.

anonanon, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link

Yeah Dems can take the Senate, looking likely imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

the House, not so much

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Dems taking senate is hardly a lock, but resistance to a Supreme Court nom plus Donald Trump in the general election would help a lot

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

they don't pay much mind to civility, consistency, bipartisanship etc. anymore.

I read the bolded part as "birthright citizenship", but that works too.

La Lechazunga (Leee), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

i'm 99% sure feingold will recover his senate seat here in wisconsin, for one thing.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

...if anyone wants to join me in spitting on ron johnson as he cleans out his office, PM me.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure his son has.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

the President Cruz + a democratic senate scenario though would be actually impossible

anonanon, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

probably! i can kind of imagine pres trump + democratic senate b/c of the strange nature of trump's constituency

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Cruz will def filibuster

I hope he does so as a lone crusader, like Capra's Mr. Smith, and continues speaking for days on end, until spent, exhausted, his nerves strung out on Benzedrine and his mind maddened by irritation from his catheter, he begins babbling all the nonsense that lies buried in his subconscious and eventually is hauled off on a stretcher, thus convincing the country that he is a dangerous megalomaniac and a madman. What a treat!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link

from the CNN crawl:

Obama: I will nominate somebody

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

Are you that somebody?

La Lechazunga (Leee), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH3giaIzONA

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

left wing feel me
right wing feel me

ulysses, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link


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