Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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trump's campaign manager citing chuck c. johnson to call the assaulted breitbart reporter a liar

https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/status/708020305013448704

Corey Lewandowski Verified account
‏@CLewandowski_
Michelle Fields is an attention seeker who once claimed Allen West groped her but later went silent. [link]

goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

is there a good intro to ricardo text out there? not that i need to add to my reading list but i'll ask

― goole, Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wouldn't bother actually reading him or any specific secondary text about him. you can understand comparative advantage, quantity theory of money and ricardian equivalence in like 3 minutes by reading wikipedia.

flopson, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

oh sweet, the marginalrevolution comment boxers aren't gonna know what hit em

goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

lol

flopson, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

speaking of marginalrevolution -- should this post have me reconsider the legitimate fear from outsourced jobs among trump voters? "Trump's vote share in the Republican primary is in fact significantly positively correlated with that measure, meaning that he performed most strongly in areas where manufacturing's decline has been least important. Where manufacturing's decline was most intense, Trump received about 30 percent of the Republican vote, and where it was lightest, he received about 50 percent of the Republican vote."

Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

i've been reading this btw: https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42965.pdf - and i'd appreciate any other good reading leads about the legacy + impact of NAFTA and free trade

Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

It takes one to no one:

Richard M. Nixon
@dick_nixon

As big a bunch of charlatans, idiots, hypocrites, liars, and the criminally stupid as you can imagine.

Marco Rubio ‏@marcorubio

Proud to welcome this group of national security experts to our team: http://rub.io/qeECpw

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

i don't doubt that her anticommunism is sincere

yep, proauthoritarian all the way

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

(which is what bad communists are anyway. fuck isms, fuck dogmas)

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

scott adams has been an unkind parody of an engineer for years

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

hoo boy

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

did not think i'd be posting an Inside Edition link in 2016

what kind of people support trump? well let's listen to... oh

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him

goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

I remember distinctly the inflection point where my position went from "Scott Adams totally gets it!" to "Scott Adams is fucking insane" and it was the coda of (I think?) The Dilbert Future where he attributed his success to the fact that he had said "I will be a successful cartoonist" 10 times out loud in a row, leveraging some metaphysical Candyman-esque energy.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

have a feeling adams thinks he is making a scathing satirical point with that trump thing but i've been wrong before

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

xp to goole: what a charming guy in that video

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

if there's one thing we know is common to all ISIS operators, it's calmly exiting a venue with security while flipping off a hostile crowd

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

INSIDE EDITION tracked down the supporter, 78-year-old John McGraw, who was unrepentant.

When asked if he liked the rally, he said: “You bet I liked it. Knocking the hell out of that big mouth.”

And when asked why he punched the protester, he said: "Number one, we don’t know if he’s ISIS. We don’t know who he is, but we know he’s not acting like an American, cussing me... If he wants it laid out, I laid it out."

He added: “Yes, he deserved it. The next time we see him, we might have to kill him. We don’t know who he is. He might be with a terrorist organization.”

On Thursday, officials arrested and charged McGraw with assault and battery and disorderly conduct, according to the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office.

goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

we know he’s not acting like an American, cussing me

moving the goalposts pretty far on which one of you isn't acting like an american, guy!

nomar, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

if there's one thing we know is common to all ISIS operators, it's calmly exiting a venue with security while flipping off a hostile crowd

hence their alarming youth appeal

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

jesus christ someone IS gonna get killed at one of these rallies soon

also they were playing "you can't always get what you want" in the background, hmm

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

it's like a real-life Eric Cartman is running for President on the Respect My Authoritaw platform

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

hey that suddenly reminds me, have those guys weighed in on why all meaningful opinions about trump are stupid yet?

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

man it's gonna be a really fucking ugly year isn't it

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/707920850620649473

Longtime NBC/WSJ pollster Peter Hart on current field's unpopularity: "I've never, never seen anything like this"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdMKL4DXEAAnUeV.jpg

goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

pretty amazing how high up on that list the incumbent black president is

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

kasich running with it there

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

kasich has by far the biggest unlisted "dunno?" demo there

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Not shown: Zika virus; being mauled in the nuts by a rabid weasel

brotato chip (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

lol at Romney being even less liked than Cruz

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

feel like dogs and cats should be there both as a baseline and also as part of a longrunning battle to see which are more popular

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

INSIDE EDITION tracked down the supporter, 78-year-old John McGraw, who was unrepentant.

When asked if he liked the rally, he said: “You bet I liked it. Knocking the hell out of that big mouth.”

And when asked why he punched the protester, he said: "Number one, we don’t know if he’s ISIS. We don’t know who he is, but we know he’s not acting like an American, cussing me... If he wants it laid out, I laid it out."

He added: “Yes, he deserved it. The next time we see him, we might have to kill him. We don’t know who he is. He might be with a terrorist organization.”

On Thursday, officials arrested and charged McGraw with assault and battery and disorderly conduct, according to the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office.

― goole, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:28 (10 minutes ago) Permalink

Why does America have such a disproportionate number of citizens who live their entire lives inside infantile fantasies?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

congratulations, President Kasich

now if you'll excuse me, I need to help my wife hide her reproductive system

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

being German isn't a fucking race. Scott Adams can fuck right the fuck off.

akm, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

lol @ google and apple high positive ratings. If the organ grinder is popular, who cares about the monkeys?

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

Seems like the general level of violence at trump rallies is ramping up. Not a positive development.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

as a german-american myself i would like to remind everyone itt that mussolini is so far a more apt comparison; thank you for your sensitivity

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link

if there's one thing we know is common to all ISIS operators, it's calmly exiting a venue with security while flipping off a hostile crowd

― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:28 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

irl lol

Treeship, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link

being German isn't a fucking race. Scott Adams can fuck right the fuck off.

he's wrong bc no one has called trump hitler bc of his german ancestry, however most "races" aren't races and if like some kid called another kid hitler after finding out he had german ancestry i'd have no problem calling that racism. also otm about mussolini being the better comparison (and berlusconi even better!)

Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

i can't believe we're talking about german-americans and nakh isn't here :(

Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

Trump lamenting "the good old days" when protestors would have been "carried out on a stretcher"
... this is like only a couple degrees removed from inciting a lynch mob.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

(and berlusconi even better!)
― Mordy, Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100124825186650&set=p.10100124825186650&type=3

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

Mike Lee endorses Cruz!!!!!!!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

you got one, ted! and he's ALSO a fucking asshole!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

Its hilarious that lee held out this long

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

nice to see 3 of 4 non-negative leaders stand with Snowden that NSA needing corporate help unlocking a phone is "bullshit".

anticommunist Goldwater Girl not doin too good

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Why does America have such a disproportionate number of citizens who live their entire lives inside infantile fantasies?

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

individualism is kind of the american dream. it's also an infantile fantasy.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

for a while I wondered if the FBI using reverse engineering or a number of the proposed techniques to break into a phone would violate the DMCA, but there is a DMCA exemption for

a federal, state, or local law enforcement officer accesses a work in the course of a lawful investigation;

the phone thing is still a red herring, it's a work-provided cell phone and the phones the attackers used to communicate with each other were destroyed. it's just a token case law enforcement is trying to use to test Apple and other security proponents

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

this was posted to FB recently as well: (long, sorry):

Lauren Underwood
March 4 at 8:56am · Garden City, MI ·
Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and share my experience at Donald Trump's rally in Warren, MI today. We'll start with why I went. I am a firm believer in being educated on ALL candidates, not just the one you're rooting for, so Stephanie and I decided to attend. If you know me, it's no surprise that I am not a fan of Trump due to his racist, misogynist, and popularity-searching "campaign". But I try to keep an open mind, understanding that people have different views and everyone is entitled to their own. I wore a shirt bashing Trump, and Stephanie wore a pro-Bernie Sanders baseball hat. We had no intentions of causing a scene, starting any fights, or even speaking negatively towards any Trump-supporters. We stood in the crowd with everyone else, even made small talk with a few different people, asking back and forth about each other's views. A women supporting Trump even complimented our hat and shirt. This is not a post to bash all Trump-supporters. Most of the people we spoke to were very kind to us, as we were to them. Trump came out and started his speech. As hard as it was, we ignored the screams and chants of building walls and exporting citizens. We stood quietly and listened to the man speak. Every 15 or so minutes, a scene would happen where the crowd would yell about protestors and Trump would scream, "Get them out, send them out of here!" and the crowd would scream "USA, USA, USA" until the attendees who were asked to leave were escorted out. So, about 45 minutes to an hour into his speech, a group of teenage boys (who had been harassing us the entire time while we ignored their comments) screamed and pointed at us, yelling for us to be kicked out. At first we laughed it off, of course we couldn't be kicked out, we were just standing here silently. Wrong. A secret service member and a police officer were there within the minute, grabbed Stephanie and I by our arms, and started to lead us out. One of the Trump supporters we were chatting with even stood up for us, explaining that we weren't doing anything and weren't being disruptive. By now the crowd was chanting their USA run and a large portion was also booing us out. The walk through the crowd was very upsetting, being screamed at and filmed, even one man said "Go to China if you like communism so much!" (Communism?? Don't you mean democratic socialism??). But also, along the walk out, some attendees would high five us or shake our hands, and thank us for coming and supporting Bernie. It felt weird to be thanked, due to us not doing anything besides standing quietly. As the two men walked us out, one explained that if we returned we would be arrested. Stephanie quickly asked why that was. The man replied with "They don't want you here," to which she said "Isn't it a constitutional right to silently protest?" The officer replied "Not here." The rude remarks and yells didn't stop at the door, for Trump-supporters who didn't get in greeted us with just as much hatred. The walk back to my truck even included a man yelling from his car about how this was for Trump people and that we didn't belong here and shouldn't have come. This kind of hatred is what is ruining this country. To think that my right to protest was taken from me AT A RALLY, scares the hell out of me for if Trump actually became president and got that power. What else would he take away from us if he can't even stand two teenage girls standing silently at a FREE, PUBLIC, OPEN-TO-EVERYONE event? If you're thinking of voting Trump this year, please rethink your stance. This much hate belongs nowhere near the presidency.

akm, Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

discussed upthread, I believe

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link


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