Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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why does trump think it was bernie supporters at his rally? is it easier to threaten a jewish guy than a woman?

― rap is dad (it's a boy!), 13. marts 2016 17:59 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A lot of the stories from protestors include them wearing Sanders clothing, and descriptions of the troubles include the protestors yelling 'feel the bern' and 'sanders sanders' etc. Also, it's largely young people. Of course, that doesn't mean that the Sanders campaign is organizing it or anything (but I'd still call it a feather in the cap for the Sanders supporters, and an indication that they care about a lot more than just their candidate)

Frederik B, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Sanders has explicity said there's no 'revolution' possible if he's the fulcrum

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

and also people think it was Sanders' supporters because that's the narrative needed to make it their fault for getting beat up

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

this is kinda what concerns me about bernie is he's been doing this for 30 years and until this election he's built nothing nationally.

i don't even really mean that bernie will continue as a national leader, just that the people he's fired up won't consider themselves satisfied at the end of this campaign.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

nothing national except this run for president of the nation

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link

Yes Adam that's what I said

Mordy, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

i'm on yr side whether it comes to it or not neanderthal but yeah along deems' lines i'm not sure i've ever flipped off a stranger without preparing for violence, so the answer to your question in this climate is definitely yes

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link

is that stryper

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

yes

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

Anyone with drunk revanchist relatives is ready for fists at 5 at any moment.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Xpost ok then a scenario where a simple disagreement spills over into something violent. Say someone walks by with a Bernie shirt for instance

Doesn't have to be a middle finger.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Lol alfred

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link

iirc florida provides plenty of reasons to avoid flipping people off, trump or no trump

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

Boehner endorses Kasich

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

That should energize the base

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

I think that particular pic is very unfair to Michael Sweet who while he is slightly odd in appearance (esp because of an over-application of makeup) is nowhere near as freaky looking as Ted Cruz.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 13 March 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

Sanders began a CNN town hall by calling Trump a pathological liar. Good for him--about time somebody did. (Will probably bail on this soon.)

clemenza, Monday, 14 March 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link

A member of my wife's doctoral thesis committee is seated front row and just to Bernie's left on stage right now. So bizarre.

joygoat, Monday, 14 March 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link

@ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald Retweeted David Chalian
I've never seen a photo that begs more for a caption contest. Lots of good suggestions already in the replies

https://twitter.com/DavidChalian/status/709200276226449408

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 March 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link

Jesus. Caption contest? That could be a campaign crippler if she's not careful. And man, she's really not ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2016 03:36 (eight years ago) link

Oddly enough, the Reagan funeral was directed by Dario Argento.

Sanders the comedian is getting sharper--he had this perfectly timed one-minute answer tonight linking trade pacts to Trump's wall.

clemenza, Monday, 14 March 2016 04:18 (eight years ago) link

if "fraternizing with the enemy" at a fucking FUNERAL makes a person unfit to rule in the eyes of the people these days, america is completely screwed.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Monday, 14 March 2016 10:54 (eight years ago) link

Especially a funeral she was going to as a former first lady.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:58 (eight years ago) link

i keep having this v risky thought that the only chance a person like bernie sanders would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump

but by the same token, the only chance that an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against a socialist senator from vermont

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

xp Her husband survived saying nice things about Nixon at his funeral - she'll be fine.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 March 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

but there's a self-destructive part of me that wants it, like in the 9th inning of a deciding game, slugger vs fireballer, don't throw me a curve you fucker just bring the heat, power vs power, let's see who's got it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:14 (eight years ago) link

Tracer otm (from a safe vantage point)

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:16 (eight years ago) link

Since when is Hil Bush's enemy? His ally vs those WMDs!

@MazMHussain
Establishment American politics is a lot like WWF, everyone just pretending to oppose each other onstage.

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2014/September/140909/1D274906737364-today-bush-clinton-140909-01.today-inline-large.jpg

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:24 (eight years ago) link

but shove the sanctimony, rushomancy

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:27 (eight years ago) link

Xpost Not the act, just the picture. Not unlike the picture of her and Bill with Trump. Context hardly matters, just visceral impact.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2016 11:39 (eight years ago) link

the only chance that an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against a socialist senator from vermont

I can conceive it if his opponent is the most hated person in the Democratic party.

But kudos on the fearful mental gymnastics, that's Chelsea Clinton's best chance for the 2040 Waterworld crown.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 March 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link

Morbs exerting understandable defense of his sanctimony monopoly there.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 March 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link

hahaha

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link

New Chait traces Trump's love of totalitarianism back decades and calls him and his campaign full out bad for America, no matter his chances of winning or losing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2016 12:46 (eight years ago) link

Wow. That's like Pulitzer right there.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link

New Chait traces Trump's love of totalitarianism back decades and calls him and his campaign full out bad for America, no matter his chances of winning or losing.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, March 14, 2016 7:46 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and yet

Why Liberals Should Support a Trump Nomination -- NYMag
nymag.com/.../why-liberals-should-support-a-trump...
New York Magazine
Feb 5, 2016 - By Jonathan Chait

global tetrahedron, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link

oh. well, he says he was wrong. i guess that's nice

global tetrahedron, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link

uh if you read the essay the first words are something like "a month ago i said a trump nomination would be best for the country...i no longer believe this to be true"

k3vin k., Monday, 14 March 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link

Obama knows exactly what he is doing

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:31 (eight years ago) link

xpost Like I noted earlier, I get a sense what happened in Chicago was some sort of grassroots we're not gonna take it tipping point. The official democratic party can be inexplicably passive or complacent about Trump, but there's no reason regular people, let alone targets of his ire, need to sit back and take his abuse.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link

xp Let's dispense with that fiction, 'kay.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 March 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link

Driving around the county this weekend I saw hundreds of Marco Rubio signs on lawns and doors, as I would've expected. Not a single Trump or Cruz sign too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link

if "fraternizing with the enemy" at a fucking FUNERAL makes a person unfit to rule in the eyes of the people these days, america is completely screwed.

― diana krallice (rushomancy), Monday, March 14, 2016 6:54 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

somehow i get the feeling that no one is changing his or her vote based on a funeral photo, but please keep up the overwrought HRC defending

k3vin k., Monday, 14 March 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link

agitprop shop goes nuts:

so michelle fields has quit breitbart news because the management are pro-trump and haven't been supportive enough after trump's campaign mgr threw her to the ground (trump himself said she made it up)

ben shapiro, one of the worst little dudes online, quit in solidarity with her. (he hasn't said anything about this directly, but he's received a nonstop flood of antisemitism from trump fans over the past several weeks)

breitbart publishes a snotty response, saying both are betraying saint andrew's widow (?!). here's an archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160314115936/http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/14/futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb/

it was credited to "William Bigelow"; funny when i looked at it this morning it was credited just to "Breitbart News"

and now it's been deleted, with a note saying it was really Joel Pollak who wrote it. and what's with that placeholder url??

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/14/futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb/

goole, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

lol mediaite has a further twist:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/see-breitbarts-ridiculously-sarcastic-response-to-ben-shapiros-resignation-that-was-promptly-deleted/

UPDATE — 9:41 a.m. ET: Things just got weird.

POLITICO’s Hadas Gold reports that the author name William Bigelow has been used in the past as a pseudonym for Shapiro’s father David Shapiro for pieces he wrote for the site. So for those of you keeping score at home, the sarcastic and sensitive hit piece aimed at the former editor-at-large was written under the name usually associated with his own father. The younger Shapiro clarified Monday, “Breitbart put this under his byline because they knew I’d have to out him. The fact they would use my father’s pseudonym in order to attack me just exposes how despicable they are.”

damn what a bunch of creeps

goole, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link


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