Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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I feel like it would be hard for either party to keep a scandal under wraps for long

Treeship, Monday, 21 March 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link

especially as it's hard to believe any of these ppl are professionals

but not sure either party has a standard of scandalous behavior anymore

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 05:14 (eight years ago) link

Medical diagnosis, Edwards-type situations, Spitzer-type situations, who knows...

... (Eazy), Monday, 21 March 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link

Trigger warning for this article, but I feel like this will probably become more of an issue in the general. This story is not just in Ivana's authorized biography but she repeated it during a deposition as well. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

Treeship, Monday, 21 March 2016 05:27 (eight years ago) link

Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

Treeship, Monday, 21 March 2016 05:40 (eight years ago) link

here's a thought: donald j. trump is going to be the republican candidate for president of the united states of america

― There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Monday, March 21, 2016 12:23 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the 'j' sounds so made up

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 21, 2016 12:46 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sounds like a cartoon character: homer j simpson, rocket j squirrel, bullwinkle j moose

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach? Fuck yeah!

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 21 March 2016 11:06 (eight years ago) link

He did not like the sound of "Michael A. Fox" during a time when "fox" was coming to mean "attractive" and because his middle initial sounded too much like the Canadian "eh?" He also didn't like the sound of "Andrew" or "Andy," so he decided to adopt a new middle initial and settled on "J", as a homage to actor Michael J. Pollard.[8]

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 March 2016 11:27 (eight years ago) link

that's great

michael, a fox

soref, Monday, 21 March 2016 11:35 (eight years ago) link

RCP polling averages show Clinton ahead of Sanders in AZ 53–23.

There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Monday, 21 March 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

but no polls since the 11th

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link

i'll put this here since no one will read the cap punishment thread

@the_intercept
Clinton's vow to feel relieved when others finally win the fight against the death penalty isn't exactly courageous. http://interc.pt/1pBLjEN

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

Man, that Trump lawyer sounds like an even more evil and vindictive Trump, the brains behind the bully.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 March 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link

"brains"

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, it's all relative. I just meant that Trump's bluster is backed up by bullshit, but I have a feeling his lawyer has the wherewithal to follow up on threats to really mess with people in more than a WWF way.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link

There really can't be enough said about Trump's mealy-mouthed derision of his detractors. The protestors are sick people, professional troublemakers who make signs with just the worst profanity, the worst words you've ever seen. Whereas Trump is standing up for his first amendment rights, and his violent supporters are just spirited folks who want their country to be great again, and I guess his own use of profanity and bigoted language is...whatever. They're sick, these protestors.

Reality is just whatever he says it is, I guess.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link

i heard that Vivia A Fox insisted on the "a" for just that reason

akm, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link

vivica, that is

akm, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link

signs with just the worst profanity, the worst words you've ever seen.

Yeah my wife and I had a good lol at this on the news this morning.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link

“The way that Trump interacts with other people is very violent, he seems like a physical bully … He seeks out conflicts in which he is going to be gratuitously brutal to other people,” says says Liza Featherstone, editor of False Choices: The Faux Feminism of Hillary Rodham Clinton. “I think women instinctively pick up on that. And it has nothing to do with policy.”...

“If men dislike Clinton more [than other Democrats], it’s partly sexist,” says Featherstone. “If you hate Hillary because she reminds you of your ex-wife, that is sexist. If you dislike Hillary because she has dedicated her life to the neoliberal polices that have screwed you, as a working person, that’s not sexist.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/21/women-hate-donald-trump-even-more-than-men-hate-hillary-clinton/

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

“If men dislike Clinton more [than other Democrats], it’s partly sexist,” -- seems pretty logical. outside general gender preferences per party i see no reason to believe that male voters have unique reasons to dislike hillary more than female voters so i've got to assume that the huge discrepancy between the two groups has a lot to do with sexism - probably both actual sexism coming from men and solidarity against sexism on some level coming from women.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:21 (eight years ago) link

female voters have more unique reason(s) to like hillary than male voters ie Making History

tho younger female voters seem markedly less invested in this as a prime reason for support

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

"We need steady hands and not a president who says he's neutral on Monday, pro-Israel on Tuesday, and who knows what on Wednesday," Clinton said.

She added that Israel's security is "non-negotiable," contrasting herself with Trump's business-like approach to politics.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/613956/hillary-clinton-slams-donald-trump-aipac

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link

Quality!

https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/711919433200082944

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

How is making history a female-specific reason?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

i was going to say that it's as much history making for me to vote for a woman POTUS as it is for any woman but i do understand why someone who shares your gender identity might give that an extra imperative.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

i listened to the speech and found it pretty predictable. much more interested in what the donald has to say (and how many ppl walk out). morbz, i do often wonder why you're so interested in this particular topic but i guess probably best not to know.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:07 (eight years ago) link

well bcz i am a secret Jew killer as well as a Trumpist, obviously.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:09 (eight years ago) link

I knew it!

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/l6APHEM.jpg

pplains, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

oh wait, you said "trumpist".

pplains, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Secret trumpets!
http://www.albrechtdurerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Slide2.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link

for all the time we spend worrying about their opinions, are white males even the biggest race/gender voting bloc nationally in terms of turnout?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

women vote more than men, but yes NH whites compose by far the greatest share of the electorate

k3vin k., Monday, 21 March 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

New Hampshire whites?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

i know that whites are like 4/5 of likely voters but women are like 6/10 of white voters?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

why does male people never want to vote?

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

they die younger and old people vote at a higher rate

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

ah of course

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

Who even cares about truth anymore, amirite.

How do you even attack or shame a candidate whose every public appearance is the spoken equivalent of rolling around in fetid shit? You can't tarnish Trump because he presents himself as soiled goods at every turn.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

we prefer arguing on message boards xp

k3vin k., Monday, 21 March 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

totally making this up but i always thought it was because men fetishized individualism more and women were generally leant more communal. writing this i realize it's a pretty broad stereotype.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

chart also confirms that while r. edward "lyin' ted" cruz is indeed a huge liar, one of the hugest liars, he is not a demonstrably worse liar than donald trump. i wonder if that counts as one of trump's lies.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

"broad" stereotype? you sexist son of a bitch

jk

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

also i would propose we start calling him "r. edward cruz," much as i was hoping "j. e. bush" or "j. ellis bush" would catch on, but i worry it would come off the wrong way.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

I'm inclined to think that anything out of Trump's mouth aside from "my name is Donald Trump" and "I'm running for president" and "I'm going to make America great again" is a lie.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

a "pretty broad" stereotype! xxp

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

"I'm going to make America great again"

think we can count this one as a lie too

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

kinda surprising to me that hillary gets a higher 'true' score than bernie

Upset by racist left wingers calling me an egg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link


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