in defense of lost causes by slavoj morbius
― petulant dick master (silby), Thursday, 24 March 2016 00:38 (eight years ago) link
some shit going down in north carolina tonight
McCrory to sign bill barring LGBT protections against discrimination
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:20 (eight years ago) link
I still have a killer Mondale '84 t-shirt fyi
― tobo73, Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
wtf is wrong with these people
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link
that bill sounds like it's trolling for a rematch on the Romer v. Evans law. what a weird moment to try and do that.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
Conservatives only wage culture war fights they've already lost; trans issues and "bathroom panic" is generating a lot of heat this year. No consolation to those being harmed or feeling threatened by any of this but the gay marriage cases of last year were inevitable when "traditional marriage" amendments swept ballots in many states in 2004.
― petulant dick master (silby), Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:38 (eight years ago) link
This is in the NC bill too
In addition to voiding the bathroom provision of Charlotte's ordinance and spelling out state policy on discrimination in employment and public accommodations, the bill also would prohibit cities and counties from adopting so-called living wage ordinances because that would require businesses to pay workers more than the state-established minimum wageRead more at http://www.wral.com/nc-lawmakers-bar-lgbt-protections-against-discrimination/15594951/#qPCRsZIZpmbY7Mbd.99
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 24 March 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
Sadly there's probably no way to mount a federal constitutional challenge against anti-home-rule statutes enacted by states, I think they can do whatever they want there.
― petulant dick master (silby), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link
move the fuck out, gay ppl
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:19 (eight years ago) link
'radical breach of trust and security under the false argument of equal access'
https://governor.nc.gov/press-release/governor-mccrory-takes-action-ensure-privacy-bathrooms-and-locker-rooms
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:44 (eight years ago) link
move the fuck out, gay ppl― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:19 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:19 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes, that should solve all the problems. can they all move in with you?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link
soonz i die
youd leave more room, tho
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link
i have no idea what that means
if all the NC fags move to NY they'll drive your rent up though
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link
^this guy goes or i do. enough already.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 March 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link
huh?? i'm scarcely needling you any more than you or i would anyone else; i'd call it teasing more than anything else. i think you're projecting something much nastier onto what i've posted than what was intended.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 03:04 (eight years ago) link
speaker ryan growing a conscience? wtf is this
press release: i am so presidential
― j., Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link
Conservatives only wage culture war fights they've already lost;
Yup.
Stephen Prothero just came out with an entire book on that very subject
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 24 March 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link
For a very long time the conservatives were actively fighting against extending basic civil rights to african-americans and to the lgbt community and the results looked like they were winning for decade after decade.
This "already lost" thesis appears to presume that conservatives "lost" the war against jim crow or lgbt rights as soon as the rights movements coalesced. Otherwise you'd have to argue that the conservatives weren't battling from the very beginning. It would be much more accurate to say that if the oppressed are willing to continue in the face of violent oppression for as many decades as it takes to overthrow the old regime, they can eventually win their point - at enormous cost in pain and effort.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
It might be better put that you only notice it when it's distinguishable from the prevailing culture.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link
I don't even know what to say about the NC bill. There was a huge battle here in Charlotte to pass the non-discrimination ordinance (and in particular to add the transgender protections), with a ton of contentious public hearings and a very divisive council vote. And it all gets undone in a single night by a cabal of conservative legislators who convened a special session for the express purpose of denying their fellow citizens a right to equal protection under the law. Duly signed into law by our beloved governor, who at least pretended to be a moderate as mayor of Charlotte for 14 years, but now seems so eager to bow and scrape to the idiotic rednecks of this worthless fucking state.
― Gatemouth, Thursday, 24 March 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
it's so fucking depressing
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 March 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link
indiana governor signs bill banning abortions in cases of fetal deformity
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link
waiting for the bill that bans abortions in cases of brunette hair
― Tay, an artificially intelligent software chatbot (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
Weird when I see people I know share this kinda thing:
http://www.kosmosjournal.org/news/political-choice-why-the-two-party-system-is-broken-beyond-repair/
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 24 March 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link
http://tofias.net/files/png/blog/2016/02/footprint.png
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 March 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
lol comcast tho. a whole company based on the collection of rent from government-granted monopolies, that it lobbies heavily to maintain.
― petulant dick master (silby), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:14 (eight years ago) link
lol at apple ngaf
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 25 March 2016 03:00 (eight years ago) link
It's from http://tofias.net/blog/2016/02/has-apple-been-neglecting-politics
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 March 2016 03:06 (eight years ago) link
today John McCain wrote a NY Times op tribute to the last Lincoln Brigade fighter from Spain who died a few weeks ago. You know, a Communist!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/opinion/john-mccain-salute-to-a-communist.html
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/can-merrick-garland-kill-the-filibuster
The conflict between the new guard and old will likely come to a head over a Supreme Court nomination. If a moderate like Garland can get majority support but not sixty votes, what will the Democrats do? It is a good bet that they will go nuclear again—and abolish filibusters for Supreme Court nominees as well. That would be a healthy step for both Democrats and democrats. The filibuster has become a cancer on the legislative process, creating the need for supermajorities on even the most routine business. The less it exists, the better.Supporters of the filibuster will warn that if it is abolished for Supreme Court nominees, it will soon be abolished for legislation too—and then the Senate will become more like the House. And that will be fine. The Senate is, by design, a less than democratic body; there is no real justification for the fact that small-population states like Vermont and Wyoming have the same number of senators as California and Texas. The existence of the filibuster only exacerbates the anti-democratic nature of the chamber. Merrick Garland’s nomination will prove consequential indeed if it helps usher the filibuster to its long-overdue demise.
Supporters of the filibuster will warn that if it is abolished for Supreme Court nominees, it will soon be abolished for legislation too—and then the Senate will become more like the House. And that will be fine. The Senate is, by design, a less than democratic body; there is no real justification for the fact that small-population states like Vermont and Wyoming have the same number of senators as California and Texas. The existence of the filibuster only exacerbates the anti-democratic nature of the chamber. Merrick Garland’s nomination will prove consequential indeed if it helps usher the filibuster to its long-overdue demise.
― k3vin k., Saturday, 26 March 2016 02:10 (eight years ago) link
it's a nice dream
― petulant dick master (silby), Saturday, 26 March 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link
So I'm still pretty sickened by HB 2 in North Carolina, but these are a few articles I found useful for context:
http://www.autostraddle.com/after-north-carolina-9-states-14-anti-trans-bills-332746/
http://www.autostraddle.com/kourtney-yochum-becomes-the-7th-trans-person-murdered-this-year-we-find-ourselves-asking-the-same-old-questions-332736/
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-conservatives-increasingly-care-where-you-pee-20160308
http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/who-birthed-anti-trans-bathroom-panic
― one way street, Saturday, 26 March 2016 13:56 (eight years ago) link
auto straddle eh
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 March 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link
Eh, Mey Rude's coverage of trans issues has been solid, and I found the breakdown of legislation in the other article to be useful.
― one way street, Saturday, 26 March 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
anybody should be able to use any public restroom imo
― ejemplo (crüt), Saturday, 26 March 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
I agree, but playing on people's transmisogynistic fears (as most of their rhetoric presents trans women as predatory deviants) gives the Republicans an easy wedge issue, as noted upthread and in that Rolling Stone article. I don't think it's mentioned in the articles I posted, but Lambda Legal and the NC branch of the ACLU will probably be spearheading challenges to the law, as far as I know; it remains to be seen who will join them.
― one way street, Sunday, 27 March 2016 03:47 (eight years ago) link
I'd like to hear what women ilxors would say about this idea.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 27 March 2016 04:15 (eight years ago) link
I don't see any good reason to gender single-user restrooms; it's not clear to me that gender-segregated shared restrooms are necessarily safer for it, but I'm more agnostic on that question. The bathroom bills, however, aren't about ensuring women's public safety, they're about restricting visibly trans people's access to public space.
― one way street, Sunday, 27 March 2016 05:10 (eight years ago) link
Merritt Kopas wrote her MA thesis and some related talks on restrooms and gender regulation, incidentally, but I've only skimmed her thesis:
http://mkopas.net/files/KOPAS_UW-thesis-2012.pdf
http://mkopas.net/files/Kopas_AGREAA-Trans-Studies_2012_text.pdf
― one way street, Sunday, 27 March 2016 05:26 (eight years ago) link
last time the gop was filibustering, people said the dems in power didn't abolish it because senators like to keep power in the senate. is that still the conventional wisdom?
― remove butt (abanana), Sunday, 27 March 2016 07:16 (eight years ago) link
I don't see any good reason to gender single-user restrooms
I agree with this completely.
As for multi-user restrooms, I would imagine that rape victims might have some qualms about abolishing gender distinctions entirely, but I am not a rape victim and cannot speak for them.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 27 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
Only reason I can see to gender single-user restrooms is that men are disgusting and make huge messes and women should not be subjected to that.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 March 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Ha ha, you have never had to clean women's restrooms for a living.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 27 March 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link
That ... is true. Are there typically puddles of urine in women's restrooms?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 March 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
fetuses everywhere iirc
― balls, Sunday, 27 March 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link
I do want to reiterate that this is a side question (there is currently no movement to abolish gendered bathrooms); the real issue is that conservatives are invoking an imaginary problem to further stigmatize an already marginalized group of people. It really isn't much different from nineteenth century laws against crossdressing.
― one way street, Sunday, 27 March 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
I'd agree with this if women didn't fear sexual assault from men.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 March 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
don't think segregating single-user restrooms really has anything to do with that
― k3vin k., Sunday, 27 March 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link
Single-user bathrooms almost always have locks on their doors to ensure privacy.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 27 March 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
So it looks like Lambda Legal, the ACLU, and Equality NC are filing suit against the North Carolina law: http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/3/27/equality-groups-filing-suit-against-north-carolinas-anti-lgbt-law
― one way street, Monday, 28 March 2016 13:24 (eight years ago) link