― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link
ARAGAHDFASDFBAFA.
I think your duty is to ensure good people have access to this fine product.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link
Sleepy Hollow was shockingly bad, even from the design point of view, surprisingly.
― R the bunged up with jollop of V (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 8 February 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 February 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 8 February 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link
If not, why not?
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 8 February 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago) link
please don't let him fuck up Maleficent
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Palmer/Gaiman would mop the street with Burton/Carter's asses.
― Kylie is a vacant Phifer (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:17 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
please don't let Angelina Jolie fuck up Maleficent!
― big (surm), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/angelina-jolie-in-talks-to-play-wicked-godmother-in-sleeping-beauty-1970241
:(
― big (surm), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343971/David-Cameron-Helena-Bonham-Carter-New-Year-Hill-climb.html
― you got your TV, you got your dinner, you got your TV dinner (DavidM), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I only recently noticed that just about all of this guy's work has been remakes or reimaginings, all processed through the same kooky "Tim Burton, Auteur" filter. And I really, really want to say he's nothing but a big assembly-line hack, but then every few years he does something I like (Mars Attacks, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd), which makes me think, huh, maybe this guy actually knows what he's doing. Which then in turn makes me think he's even more of a hack, for doing all the hacky stuff, when I know he's capable of better.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Two out of three of those were from scripts or source material he didn't write, which may explain something.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
(And I realize yeah, remakes etc., but he seems to put a more 'personal' stamp on those versus something like Ed Wood in particular -- probably his most non-Burton film in the end. Also about the only one that doesn't have Danny Elfman doing the music; if it wasn't Depp as the star it would stand out even more, but I think it's also one of Depp's best performances, so.)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I still think Sweeney is a mediocre take on a brilliant musical, any credit for that movie is Sondheim's imo
― Magic Our Maurice! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
never saw the musical but the film was really good, and I was prepared to hate it, hating almost everything else burton does these days. but I still always give him a chance, because, like with Sweeney, he sometimes really delivers. but often he's just crap. frustrating. at least he finishes movies, unlike gilliam, though.
― akm, Saturday, 22 January 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
is this frankenweenie thing gon be stupid
― weingarden by kawhineyscope (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
well, it is called Frankenweenie
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Pre-judge for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE10-Mforlo
― Old Lunch, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
It's like if Brad Bird decided to do a feature length remake of Family Dog.
― The Most Typical and Popular Girl Rider (Crabbits), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
LOOOOL
― Mary Ty$ Band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
frankenweenie was great, most enjoyable burton thing I've seen in years.
― akm, Sunday, 7 October 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
It was the most enjoyable Burton thing I've seen in years (decades), and it's not great.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 October 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
He peaked at Peewee's Big Adventure.
― Leon Septamost, Sunday, 7 October 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
It really is hilarious that after a string of so many adaptations and remakes, he finally got around to remaking his own film. Be even funnier if someone had independently rewritten the script, got it to Burton, and he was all "that's it! this idea is genius! finally, an original property to remind people why they liked me to begin with!"
Rewriting "Beetlejuice" right now, btw. Hoping to land Burton as director.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 October 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
Took kids to Frankenweenie at the dollar theater yesterday (which is actually a $2.50 theater now, but anyway) -- it was fun, well made. Not a patch on, say, Coraline, but we all enjoyed it. My older kid (8) was actually sort of freaked out by some parts, but the younger one (4) happily munched popcorn straight through and was talking about it for hours afterward.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
man i caught 30 minutes of edward scissorhands on tv last night while cooking/waiting for dinner for the first time in probably 20 years and jesus it was interminable.
― packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
more than any other director i can't square how this guy could make a couple of my favorite movies of all time and then a whole shit ton of pure skin-crawling dreck using the same basic aesthetic.
― packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
I caught Scissorhands for the first time in 20 years recently too and it was overwhelmingly slight, I thought. Burton is one of those directors whose aesthetic -- the idea of a Tim Burton film -- is better than any of his actual films that I recall.
In the early 90s/late 80s, Robert Smith-style gothiness + John Waters + Disney hit all the right buttons culturally.
― Cunga, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't seen Ed Wood since it came out, but based on what I remember of it I'd still defend it as Burton's best (w/possible exception of Pee-Wee, but I give Paul Reubens more credit for that).
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
I've seen Ed Wood a number of times and I agree that it's his best.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
"Alice In Wonderland" is on TV later on. I'm kinda interested in seeing it tbh.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
ymmv, but it felt like a true artistic nadir for Burton the one time I saw it. Worse, even, than his take on Charlie&tCC. I occasionally watch the clip of Depp doing the "Futterwacken" dance on YT if I'm in a bleak mood, just to remind myself that things could always be worse.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
pee-wee > ed wood > beetlejuice > mars attacks > everything else
― packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
Looking back it's just so odd that this is who DC handed the first Batman film since the 60s - the allegedly first "serious" one - to. And that they gave him another! Not that I'm complaining about either.
I think he's had mistakes before and since, but Big Fish was the one that I remember watching and thinking "Wow, there's nothing in this".
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
tbf i haven't seen anything he's done in full since charlie and the chocolate factory, but then do i really need to?
― packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
Big Fish was pretty bad
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
Burton's reputation would be preposterous and invincible if he had stopped making films in the 90s and was only now making a comeback. A friend put it another way: "tim burton could have won best picture for big fish if he had taken about ten years off before making it"
― Cunga, Thursday, 27 December 2012 08:27 (eleven years ago) link
I stopped seeing his movies about 10 years ago but he's still useful to me as a commissioner of new Danny Elfman scores (for some reason Elfman still brings his A game for Burton's films even though the films themselves do nothing of the sort.) I never plan on going near the Alice film but Elfman's music for it was maybe the best film score of that year.
(There's a similar dynamic with M Night Shyamalan and James Newton Howard-- JNH invariably writes his most inspired music for these misbegotten films)
― Q-Tip—blessed Q-Tip! (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:38 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
planet of the apes was the beginning of the end for me. what a big nothing. what gets to me is how ugly his films are now. its all digital chintziness with no character
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
The best thing for him at this point would be some of jobwork. Like, having to direct someone else's baby. But he has too much clout to be constrained in that way.
― Q-Tip—blessed Q-Tip! (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
weird thing to say right after someone brings up planet of the apes
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
ha. point taken.
― Q-Tip—blessed Q-Tip! (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
h4a otm - Alice, Dark Shadows, all this new stuff has a very plastic deadness about it. all gloss, no depth
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
TB would be fine if he stuck to animated stuff -- like, a stop-motion burton 'alice' would probably have been awesome. it's amazing that a guy who did something as good as 'ed wood' churns out as much soulless dreck as he does now.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link