his very clownishness evinces a disdain for parliamentary procedure.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
Third question itt is what does it matterFourth might be should usa ilx be so fixated on possible fascist d trumpFifth prob could be could my hands be doing something less wringy and more beneficial like making a nice sandwich or playing the lute or holding the pages of a fine book or hitching a ride to a carefree place in which i could more productively and less frettishly pass the interminable fucking delay between this sorry shitheap of a process and actually casting my vote
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
This site is dying for want of a less stupid topic tbh
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link
Sad!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link
:-(
I am appealing to u wonderful, intelligent and capable people to just not do this anymore
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
"topics are stupid, site dying, i alone can solve"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
I wish that last were true, but im clearly begging for a community effort here
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link
i agree with deems, actually, but i still feel drawn to worrying about stuff i can't control.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
We'll have to get you all into watching the euros
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link
can i recommend https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=brexit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=when+is+the+brexit coming up v soon
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link
u don't have to read the bad thread, deems
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 May 2016 06:43 (eight years ago) link
do you play much lute deems?
― ogmor, Thursday, 26 May 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link
lol @ liberal voice of complacency
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:10 (eight years ago) link
This may have already been covered but I think that fascism is generally defined more by what it's against than what it's for. Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were all about making their countries great again by being anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist and anti-all the minority groups. Trump seems to be going down this path by being against big corporations, the government and immigrants but being rather vague about how exactly he would achieve his goals
― paolo, Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:14 (eight years ago) link
Then again maybe I'm just one of those European liberals who's all like 'look at this right wing American nut! He's just like Hitler!' I don't know
― paolo, Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:16 (eight years ago) link
Mussolini, get it right.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 09:15 (eight years ago) link
@tinyrevolution Most dictators need 20 years of absolute power to reach the level of hateful paranoid insanity that Trump is starting with
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
https://storify.com/case_face/a-trump-rally-in-greensboro-anger-in-here-is-palpa
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link
Crowd won't clap for call for unity with LGBTQ
Bragging that he took credentials from WA Post. Crowd yells Kill them all.
Trump comparing immigrants to snakes
Crowd calls for Berghdal to be shot, hung
Confederate flags everywhere
Telling myself they're angry about the economy. About changing technology and industry. But there's so much base-level ugliness.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:02 (eight years ago) link
TLDR: he's a fascist
hi, am!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:09 (eight years ago) link
this is how nazi germany sharted
― hunangarage, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 03:21 (eight years ago) link
Has not convincingly indicated he believes in anything but the greater glory of himself.
Not provably a fascist, we'd have to see how he "governs." I'd prefer not to know.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:14 (eight years ago) link
I ran the how does it walk how does it quack test, and yeah he's a fascist
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:39 (eight years ago) link
can a duck do the goosestep?
racist yes, fascist incomplete
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link
suggest adopting working hypothesis
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:44 (eight years ago) link
altamont reenactors
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:58 (eight years ago) link
That rally livetweet is fucking chilling. Trump is just rubbing shit and dumpster juice into an already-festering boil on the ass of America. I can do without seeing the Mad Max-ification of this country in my lifetime.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link
dude is so explicitly a garden-variety fascist I'm a little mystified that we're still in disagreement. not all fascists have a coherent fascist ideology; there isn't any Soviet-style purity test for fascism. Trump's fascism is natural to his way of thinking: his ideas (a leader gets to respond to the mean old press as he sees fit; people should have to submit to whatever a leader thinks is good and right before they can do as they like in the country that leader runs) are instinctively fascistic
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
I don't get it either. I find the Cro-Magnons who support Trump vile but I at least get the vile place they're coming from. I totally don't get anyone who's still on the fence about Trump and doesn't see the legitimacy his presumptive nomination has gained him as a serious threat to civil society.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
That rally livetweet is fucking chilling.
unbelievably so! i made the mistake of watching the youtube of that event out of curiosity this morning and i've been depressed ever since.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link
Barring some cataclysmic event that shifts public opinion in his favor, I don't think he has a chance of winning the election, but that's almost beside the point since he's done such a fantastic job of drawing the morlocks out of their holes and giving them a figure to organize around. We're going to be wistfully reflecting on those halcyon days when the quaint Tea Partiers were the right wing fringe.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link
Trump in Atlanta today. The rally will take place at the Fox Theatre, essentially right on the edge of Midtown's gay district.
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link
When this discussion comes up I do always recommend paxtons anatomy of fascism. And one of his main conclusions is not to judge fascists by what they claim, but how they act. That makes it hard to tell about aspiring fascists, of course.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link
That is, there is no coherent fascist ideology. Which is kind of the point.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link
that ok that gays love him he has the best gays xxp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 14:00 (eight years ago) link
I am not mystified in the least that we are in disagreement about philosophical categorization, but I am *so* not saying why.
Not having been a polisci student in 30+ years, i'll take your word that fascists don't need a coherent ideology, but that suggests maybe several hundred people in US politics might be as fittingly labeled? My local fave would be Giuliani, even tho he has mercifully failed at being elected to anything since 1997.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
I think a fascist is kind of necessarily a nationalist. like you can have fascist-sympathizing mayors but like...if I'm a fascist in my house, that's a pretty weak fascism, fascism is nationalistic in character
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link
like you can have fascist-sympathizing mayors but like...if I'm a fascist in my house, that's a pretty weak fascism, fascism is nationalistic in character
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)
otm. that's the extent i would place some kind of "purity test" on so-called fascism. it builds a pyre of vainglorious nationalism, defines itself in opposition to specific threat groups supposedly responsible for the national fall, and tends to assume an absurdly triumphal (and at least implicitly violent) character.
― oculus lump (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
Trump currently talking about how horrific it is that Germany is being overrun by non-Germans
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
question answered, lock thread
― pacific distances (sciatica), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
You have to be fucking kidding me.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
tbf he didn't say "non-Germans" but that was what he seemed to be implying
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link
@tinyrevolutionI kind of admire Trump's determination not to change as the nominee and to stay the same narcissistic fantasist bigot he's always been
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
i have obviously known about trump as a persona for a long time but seriously was there ever any indication prior to the past several years that he was like this? he always seemed like a complete dick of course, but not this level of dick.
― nomar, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
i'm sure "The Apprentice" had an editor.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link
There was a documentary made about what a dick he is.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
the birtherism seems like an early indicator xxp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
... maybe even two of them? (xp)
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
Trump just said "We are having the blood sucked out of our country."
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link