a hot dog is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf4peGGhVck

http://68.media.tumblr.com/b714e6c5a16112f066609f817ee6831a/tumblr_ola1c2ymYr1vj3g26o1_500.jpg

FIENDISH

ugh I eat some gross shit that shouldn't go in anybody's mouth and I don't want to eat that

https://mobile.twitter.com/matttomic/status/859117370455060481/photo/1

good night, blt-right

A hot dog is basically a gyro minus the tzatziki.

as a true neutral bordering on samm-archist that profoundly disturbs me

Picturing a mass of hot dogs slowly roasting on a gyro wheel. I think I just glimpsed a glorious future.

on your face, forever

there's enough content in that chart to keep ilx arguing for the next eighteen months

I appear to be True Neutral, which is how I like my D&D characters tbh

i'm struggling to understand the mindset of anyone who thinks a chip butty is anything other than a sandwich, a worldview so diametrically opposed to mine that it might as well be extraterrestrial

i think i'm structural neutral, ingredient rebel

in d&d terms that would be what, chaotic neutral? oh shit, am i a sandwich libertarian?

neutral evil i'd've thought, sorry to break it to ya

now I'm wondering whether we should draw the Good-Evil spectrum against structure or ingredients

nah you're right, chaotic neutral, Good and Evil has to be structure-based

glad we sorted this out

thx for yr support nv

gonna read up on Chaotic Neutral, it seems one of the more difficult alignments to define

A hot dog? Meatloaf? The same thing. The same damn thing.

I do like the way that chart allows people a rudimentary language with which to discuss their feelings on this important matter.

However, I think that like any typology it fails to capture nuance and matters of degree. The nature of definers and rule-makers is to categorize. The nature of exuberantly questioning humankind is to defy categorization. Consider the burger whose bun is a doughnut. Consider the late lamented Double Down, in which fried chicken acted as bread. This is why I think the only solution is to move away from binaries and toward spectra.

Nobody much cares what I think, but: my philosophy is one of relative sandwichness rather than a binary is/isn't. I believe a BLT is more of a sandwich than a hot dog is. AND I think a hot dog is more of a sandwich than a Pop-Tart is. AND a Pop-Tart is more of a sandwich than Bolivia or trigonometry or a Chevrolet Camaro is a sandwich.

One might call the opposite position... hotdogmatic.

oh god no

yeah I kind of think in terms of set theory whereby a hot dog belongs to the absolute set of sandwichness but not necessarily to the core sandwich set

Is a Gyros a sammich?

Is Goofy a dog?

Is a hot dog a giro?

Noodle, yeah in legal philosophy this is sometimes referred to as core vs. penumbra.

A "core" case would be one that the statute is intended to cover. In the classic example, a statute that bans vehicles from a park is obviously intended to cover cars. A "penumbra" case would be one not considered by the creators of the law, such as a skateboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart%E2%80%93Fuller_debate

Good thing we're not discussing whether or not cereal is a soup.

can't believe we haven't tackled the oreo question itt

xp uh cereal is obviously a stew.

"Not the thing that springs to mind when you say sandwich" is sort of my wife's criterion. Her test is like, "If you asked for a sandwich and somebody brought you (X), would you be satisfied or boggled?"

If I said "Hey, I'm making some soup. Want some?" and then I brought you a bowl of cereal, you'd be like WTF?

If I said "Hey, I'm making a sandwich. Want one?" and then I brought you a taco, you'd be like, um, huh?

(But you'd still eat it, because my tacos are fucking delicious.)

Special cases get special categories, such as breakfast sandwich (e.g., Egg McMuffin) or open-faced sandwich or ice cream sandwich. The extra specificity lets your hearer know what to expect. If you ask for a sandwich and someone brings you an Oreo, you'd be like wtf dude. But if you had asked for a sandwich cookie, you'd be pleased.

can't believe we haven't tackled the oreo question itt

― adolf hitler, the moses hightower of national socialism (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:57 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good point. If you chew up a hot dog and spread the resultant paste between two other hot dogs, is that basically an Oreo? Yes. Of course it is.

new display name locked in, cheers

"Sandwoid"TM

Any food product which is pureed and packed into a casing counts as a hot dog, I'm pretty sure. Similarly, one could argue that the contents of a hot dog removed from the casing would be considered a food product.

WaPo: 'A hot dog is a taco. A steak is a salad. A Pop-Tart is a calzone.'

hot dog is a pizza via the Four Foods Theory

I don't think it's unfair to assert that resolving the mysteries posed itt is the first step towards universal accord between the peoples of the world.

ugh why is it always the "hot dog isn't a sandwich" people who need to pull out a fucking whiteboard and talk to ruth bader ginsburg

Hotdog is a sandwich.

This is one of my favorite threads.

Poll results are a classic case of hearts overruling minds.

see THIS is why ppl leave ilx

youre all morons

NOT A SANDWICH

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, July 31, 2015 3:30 PM (three years ago)

^ still posts here

what unites us is greater than what divides us

hot dogs are like tattoos

― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, July 31, 2015 1:52 PM (three years ago)

The French ones look like they got fused with welsh rarebit

― xelab, Friday, July 31, 2015 1:53 PM (three years ago)

xelab was responding directly to SG btw.

I would be willing to split the difference and accept that a hot dog is half a sandwich. Can we all agree on that much, at least?

Lunch, I am definitely of the school that there are degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich than, say, a suspension bridge is. But less than a BLT is.

It might (and perhaps has) been argued that a suspension bridge is just the filling in a discontinuous landmass sandwich.

god these poll results get me steamed

Steamed like a hot dog which is most assuredly not a sandwich, would u say?

Burgers are also not sandwiches

is an open-faced sandwich more or less of a sandwich than a hot dog, and if so why? (because it has sandwich in the name is not an answer i will accept)

By that logic, the Earl of Sandwich would also have been a sandwich.