A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

Or be realistic

also I can only think of two would-be "white supremacists" - Boyd (who's actually just a craven opportunist) and Dewey (whose true defining characteristic is being an idiot who can't count how many kidneys he has) xp

You could always just watch "The Shield," where the cops are racist and homophobic and evil.

And yes, like "The Shield" it's one of the best shows.

Sam Elliot shows up and steals the show! I'm sad it's almost over.

so much of the speculation about how the show would end was so ill-informed imo, like people were anticipating something based on all the other violent cable shows they've watched as opposed to justified itself.

Just watching Deadwood for the first time and glad to have Raylan there as an anchor in this weird world.

Just watched the final episode and what a humble ending. I feel like saying god bless, if I said that sort of thing.

olyphant was actually about to tear up in that last shot

it was very genuine for sure

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awwww. now i gotta watch it again

Just finished tonight, kinda weird I'd kinda drug my feet on watching the last season didn't want to say goodbye to all these great characters. But yeah what a great, heartfelt last words episode.... That last exchange really got me

i'm mystified by why people were hating on season 4 upthread, having just crammed the first 5 seasons i'd say its something like

S4 > S2 > S3 >S1 > S5

s4 was great, the last half of the season every episode felt like it was one ep away from the end of the season

I loved S4. I'd say 2 > 4/6/1 > 3 > 5. It was a pretty damn consistent show.

The siege episode at the end of Season 4 is a pretty amazing series highlight, I think.

I still have to watch seasons 5/6 but of the first four I'll straight away say 4>3>2>1. And it's very good from season 2, I just thought it was more conventionally cable-structured. The insanity of the many interlocking plots is what was so fun about Justified at it's best.

Let me just say: you're gonna love Daryl Crowe, Jr. Brace yourself!

season 5 is the weak one, not 4

Rapaport's accent is probably as bad as JH's in The Expanse. That bad.

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The siege episode at the end of Season 4 is a pretty amazing series highlight, I think.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2639552/
why because it's a Gutterson ep

I still think a spin off series without Olyphant could be good, seeing as the rest of the cast are mostly a+. But then again sometimes it is better to accept something has run it's course.

season 5 is the weak one, not 4

― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 14:30 (eight hours ago) Permalink

That's what I'm saying !

The drew thompson plot was great imo

5 was weak but i didn't think it was abjectly terrible, just a definite cut below. S6 was an incredible recovery though.

Yeah, I don't think I've seen a show so clearly lose then recover the plot.

s6 is still second worst imo, the Ava/Boyd stuff is mostly a drag

but the only thing really worth saving from s5 is the insane Alan Tudyk guest ep

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he auditioned for Tony Stark as well.

I hope he does another project worthy of Deadwood and Justified at some point.

Looks like movie stardom is just not in the cards for him. Perhaps not even TV stardom, at this point. He's in that California cannibal comedy that no one watches, right? I loved him in The League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRbE1buM7M

I tried with Santa Clarita Diet but had to bail after a couple episodes. They had him doing this extremely broad performance that didn't work for me.

I found it got a lot better after the first few episodes, but yeah, still not worthy of him. I don't understand how everyone in the world doesn't see how amazing Timothy Olyphant is. He would've been great in Big Little Lies, for instance (even though SKARSGARD was great too).

his best movie roles were probably The Crazies and A Perfect Getaway. he's great in down-and-dirty genre movies

I'm kinda surprised they haven't gone back to redo 'Pronto' and a prequel with the stories that are based in Miami with the Given's character. If you did it right, you could also use the other Miami characters like Chili Palmer etc.

Not sure if it was ever mentioned upthread, but that is kinda the triumph and the tragedy of this show, and maybe of Olyphant’s career - they found the perfect Elmore Leonard leading man, just in time for Elmore Leonard to bite the dust.

Olyphant picked up a producer credit starting midway through (season 3, I think?) and apparently acted as a sort of "Elmore whisperer" helping to make sure the writing reflected his style correctly. The fact that EL died while they were working on S5 and it wound up being kind of a weak, downbeat season is not a coincidence, I don't think.

Looks like movie stardom is just not in the cards for him. Perhaps not even TV stardom, at this point.

tbh i think he has certainly achieved TV stardom.

when i think of Season 5 i think about how pretty much anyone in that Daryl Crowe role other than Michael Rapaport would have considerably improved those episodes.

Yeah, I mean he's starred in two major dramas and guested or recurred on at least a half-dozen major sitcoms, including one where he played himself. xp

i think in retrospect what was refreshing abt Justified was the very subtle character arc for Raylan, just learning to not give in to his anger and quietly avoiding his family's fate. when all the speculation running up to the end of the series was suggesting that everyone would die or whatever, it made me think people have stopped learning to watch the show they're watching and have instead started to expect every generic tv trope for feel-bad cable series to show up on every show, even if they're completely outside of expectations pretty much all of the time. i think a lesser show with a more cliched dark tone would have killed off so many characters along the way, Breaking Bad/Ozymandias style.

to be a bit clearer

**even if the show is completely outside of the feel-bad genre pretty much all of the time.

xpost Nah, stardom is when people tune in to the show to see him. Which they did, for Justified and Deadwood, to an extent, but those were both ensembles and also two of the best shows of all time, with a strong case to be made for at least one of them being *the* best. And he's great in them, and maybe they would not have been great without him, but I don't think he could anchor a show based on those masterpieces alone. He's not, like, Ted Danson or something. He got lucky. And in some ways so did we.

But again, the Drew Barrymore show, I don't think anyone really watches that, and regardless, it's the Drew Barrymore show that he happens to be in. Like, my wife loves Timothy Olyphant and would gladly dump me for him (I mean, I don't blame her!), but even she has no interest in that show. You want stardom? I don't recognize at least 7 or 8 of the last 10 Barrymore movies, but she's a household name.

i think Ted Danson is a pretty good comparison actually, he starred in one of the great ensemble sitcoms of all time, and as great as he was I suspect it's a stretch to say people were tuning in to the show to see him. but he is still a TV star, as is Olyphant. In the sense that he's the type of guy they think of to anchor a show, and i bet his name is still at the top of a lot of lists, which is what makes a TV star imo.

it could be argued that the TV star bar is a bit lower, i mean guys like Simon Baker and Michael Weatherly(?) have been above-the-line stars on shows.

There's no way anyone tuned in to Becker for anything but Danson.

no i liked whatsername

i think people tuned into Becker because its lead-in was Everybody Loves Raymond!

i think a new series starring Timothy Olyphant would get a big push based on him alone, but at the same time i think he's not really invested in TV or film stardom despite him achieving it (imo!)

whatever the next show is the creators need to base it around how Olyphant looks damn good in a hat

i like him best with facial hair but its not required