Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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The Lewandowski-Manafort-Hicks dynamic is fascinating

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 16 June 2016 03:42 (eight years ago) link

The Trump campaign would not comment on the record about its relationship with the RNC. One Trump Tower official called it “a great relationship. I work well with everybody over there and I haven’t heard of anyone who doesn’t have a great relationship with them.”

tee hee

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 June 2016 03:52 (eight years ago) link

"It's a great relationship. The Greatest. Never has a relationship worked as great as ours. If the RNC was a hot Slavic model, our orgasms would be YUGE!"

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 June 2016 04:19 (eight years ago) link

next election thread really needs to be named HIRALLY CLIMPS FOR PRESIDETN

germane geir hongro (s.clover), Thursday, 16 June 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link

A lot being made of this Guccifer2 hack?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 June 2016 12:35 (eight years ago) link

Jesus, whenever I think this stupid motherfucker can't get any stupider: Trump: DNC hacked itself

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link

Stop hacking yourself! Stop hacking yourself!

how's life, Thursday, 16 June 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link

This "I'm going to just constantly assert things that have no bearing whatsoever on reality" tendency that Trump shares with way to many people needs to be fucking wiped out asap.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:02 (eight years ago) link

Nor can Larry Hogan, who is otherwise execrable.

I'm a bit sad about the DNC hack because now Putin will know that Trump has absurdly tiny baby-hands, also that the DNC oppo researchers apparently didn't find anything that could not have been googled.

I'm Martin Sheen, I'm Ben Vereen (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:48 (eight years ago) link

I'm somewhat surprised at their restraint in not going to that next letter of the alphabet. Just give it time, I guess.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link

Nor can Larry Hogan, who is otherwise execrable.

hate having to grit my teeth and admit that Larry Hogan is doing the right thing and deserves some credit here

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link

The tiny plurality that elected him (my in-laws included) are likely scratching him off their list of the righteous as we speak, and I am smiling a secret smile.

I'm Martin Sheen, I'm Ben Vereen (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm somewhat surprised at their restraint in not going to that next letter of the alphabet. Just give it time, I guess.

I have a bet with a friend that he's gonna call her one of those words on TV before it's all said and done

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link

^^ I said that to my wife the other day. Probably by the second debate.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

man that Trump campaign/RNC infighting is comedy gold. If Trump was an old school fascist he'd be plotting his own Night of the Long Knives by now.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

I love the TPM headline

Trump's Not Doing Poorly; He's Not Even Running

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

Street Talk Tees is a company based in Aurora, Ohio, that sells mostly shirts featuring the names of colleges, cities and sports teams. Along with obscenities. The company’s website includes this disclaimer: “All designs are created just to allow our customers to expres how they feel. FIRST AMENDMENT RULES!”

Soon, a cleansing fire.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

xp "Do you know what they're calling her? Have you ever heard of "See You Next Tuesday"? Horrible, horrible. But they're saying it!"

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

Didn't he pull that one already after someone at his rally called Ted Cruz a pussy?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

Ha, yeah:

"You're not allowed to say, and I never expect to hear that from you again. She said -- I never expect to hear that from you again! She said he's a pussy! Terrible. Terrible. That's terrible," Trump said to an excited crowd.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

Hey, I go right past Aurora once a week! If anyone wants to start a GoFundMe for my legal costs, I'll burn this place down over the weekend.

Meanwhile:

Andrew Stroehlein ✔ @astroehlein
Trump: "Belgium is a beautiful city." Thank goodness for oceans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iEes9bzbg

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

xps- that's the best deBoer takedown i've ever read, damn... so good

de l'asshole (flopson), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

this is amazing to me

Others might do it well or poorly. But Trump isn't doing any of it. There's a Politico story out today about how the RNC gave him the names of twenty big GOP donors to call. He got bored or frustrated and stopped after calling three. And this comes after deciding that he actually doesn't need to raise a billion dollars.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

It is increasingly clear that Donald Trump is perfectly happy to be president, as long as he doesn’t have to work for it.

obv not surprising at all

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

a reversal from George W. Bush, who was perfectly happy to be president as long as he didn't have to work.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

c'mon, he cleared all that brush that one time

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

these fuckin putzes, so doomed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-fundraising-gop.html?_r=0

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

Donald being forced to raise money after all his nonsense in the primary is some delicious irony

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

I mean how can you not laugh, what a fucktard:
Moreover, while Mr. Trump lent his campaign more than $43 million in the primaries, he has shown little inclination to self-finance his general election campaign in a large-scale way. Yet many Republican fund-raisers have openly questioned why they would donate their money to a candidate who has claimed a net worth of $10 billion.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

Did I say $10 billion? Uh, I meant $10 hundred. And half of that is an abstract valuation of my name brand, so see? I really need the money, thanks!

I used to think that Trump campaign volunteers would be the saddest thing ever, followed by Trump campaign donors. Now I'm not so sure. Perhaps it's the other way round.

I'm Martin Sheen, I'm Ben Vereen (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

apologies if this has been posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/15/donald-trump-poll-numbers-us-election-hillary-clinton

The suspicion of protesters reached a point at which Trump supporters were informing on each other for not being “real” supporters. One woman pointed security toward a couple sitting quietly in their seats. “Them,” she mouthed.

The couple seemed baffled and denied to a security agent that they were anything but genuine Trump admirers. He waved them toward the exit and said, “Let’s go.”

Afterward the informer, who declined to give her name, grinned as onlookers congratulated her. “I heard one of them say ‘Never Trump’,” she said. “And one held up three fingers, like this.”

She held up her hand in a Boy Scout salute.

What did the three fingers signify?

“I have no idea,” she said.

goole, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:54 (eight years ago) link

Probably posted on the mass shooting thread:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/58885b65cf714811964305b99ca78d93/mccain-obama-directly-responsible-orlando-shooting

Disgusting (and the "I misspoke" clarification doesn't much change that). I hope it helps dispel the idea that McCain was this pillar of virtue in 2008, which is always followed by a cut to him sheepishly telling that woman "No, ma'am, he's an American..." As many have pointed out, he'd been letting that stuff go on for weeks beforehand. He got noble only when the election was clearly not going to go his way. That's when he started cleaning up his image.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

I occasionally have some dark, dark thoughts about Trump's supporters that are difficult to square with my generally pacifistic leanings.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

Forced sterilization isn't technically violence, right?

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

that's... p violent

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

Aw, man.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

the bit quoted from the guardian article shows why these kinds of movements inevitably flame out (not without enormous cost, of course)--their rites of purification are inevitably turned inward, the only logical end point is a kind of suicide.

ryan, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

ratfucking suggestion: send ppl to Trump rallies to randomly accuse other ppl in the crowd of being protestors

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

That would be beautiful. That would be the best ratfucking, absolutely the best.

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

let me tell you, a lot of people are talking about this ratfucking and really, it's just unbelievable, the rats, the fucking

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

lol

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

I don't necessarily believe in this ratfucking but people come up to me every day and say, I can't believe how tremendous the ratfucking would be. It's true. I'm building a wall.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my rat, perhaps I’d be fucking her.

how's life, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link

ratfeeding suggestion: feed ppl at trump rallies to rats

oculus lump (contenderizer), Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:03 (eight years ago) link

i have the best rats, they do the best fucking, it's beautiful.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

is the entire trump campaign just an extended advertisement for a new trump tv network?
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-tv-network

Mordy, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link


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