Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

feeling the fizz from Doctor Casino's post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke#Conspiracy_theories

it certainly seems fair to me to suggest that coke is playing a large part in trump's run for president

Right wing Twitter is agreeing re: New Coke

https://twitter.com/LeonHWolf/status/744965911002681345

We've established that Donny Trump Jr is just there so his old man can transfer his consciousness into him at some point, y/y?

I imagine it more as a future source for organs.

I was thinking that his hair is completely ridiculous, but if you assume it's going to get bleached and woven into his father's rug, it makes sense

he's a hair surrogate

I try to be kind to how people present themselves, but I look at that picture with three of the children and wonder, other than Ivanka, why it looks like something is wrong with their faces

People forget about the Pepsi challenge, in which Pepsi clearly and definitively trounced Coke, which is why Coke rejiggered the formula to be more Pepsi-like.

Anyone else remember the Gen X OK Soda?
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/2/23/14/enhanced-buzz-12462-1361646289-0.jpg

My friend's response was to start calling Pepsi Epsi-pay Soda.

if you see Ivanka without makeup, she's got a lot of Trump in her

well. or so he hopes.

OK Cola was p awesome lol @ "beverage"

those GenXers were so ironic!

never seen those, WOW at Charles Burns and Daniel Clowes soda

yeah it was a weird cultural moment - Liquid Television era

imo the Gen X aesthetic and cultural reach peaked with OK Soda and the whole generation could have packed up and left after that

Am betting Trump will soon seem for the GOP as embarrassing a business choice in sore need of a humiliating climbdown as coke 2 was for the coca cola corp

This is a great book, btw, and totally gripping on the new coke issue
http://blankbooks.co.za/127/for-god-country-and-coca-cola.jpg

Has anyone else read this?
http://www.gq.com/story/hope-hicks-mystifying-triumph-donald-trump

#TeamJolt

oh man JOLT = the first "energy" drink?

how soon they forget yoohoo

Who do?

I remember the Jolt motto, all the sugar, twice the caffeine.

I once drank a six-pack of Jolt in one sitting to see what would happen to me. (Ans: extreme hyperactivity and an overwhelming need to pee every 30 seconds)

xp you do natch

Anyone else try Kona Pepsi? It was awful, like filling your cup with coffee, dumping it out, and then refilling it with Pepsi without rinsing it in between. Crystal Pepsi was OK, iirc, tasted a bit like Zima.

(Zima is still sold in Japan, btw.)

frogbs, I see what you did there

Yoo-hoo owned several other chocolate drink brands as well, including Choc-Ola (now owned by Choc-Ola Corporation under U.S. Trademark 77,768,627); Brownie (now owned by Orca Beverage under U.S. Trademark 85,510,836); Cocoa Dusty (current owner unknown); and Chocolate Soldier (now owned by an individual under U.S. Trademark 86,071,518).

Was there ever a soft drink marketed exclusively to bigots and xenophobes?

― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Monday, June 20, 2016 9:06 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all this soda talk and no one made the fanta joke

i remember reading about OK cola extensively and never actually seeing a single can of it in chicago. how widely was it distributed?

(btw i like this thread detour)

not sure when anyone would drink soda when you can drink gin tbh

Chocolate Soldier

I'll take "sodas that sound like euphemisms" for $500, Alex.

not sure when anyone would drink soda when you can drink gin tbh

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 20, 2016 3:42 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do you drink gin at the office?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/apprentice_crew_members_on_their_old_boss_donald_trump.html

He Likes to Keep “a Fat Guy” Around

“There was a fat contestant who was a buffoon and a fuckup,” recalls the midlevel producer. “And he would fuck up week after week, and the producers would figure that he’d screwed up so badly that Trump would have to fire him. But Trump kept deciding to fire someone else. The producers had to scramble because of course Trump can never be seen to make a bad call on the show, so we had to re-engineer the footage to make a different contestant look bad. Later, I heard a producer talk to him, and Trump said, ‘Everybody loves a fat guy. People will watch if you have a funny fat guy around. Trust me, it’s good for ratings.’ I look at Chris Christie now and I swear that’s what’s happening.”

loooool

do you drink gin at the office?

― wizzz! (amateurist),

I don't drink soda either!

Was there ever a soft drink marketed exclusively to bigots and xenophobes?

― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Monday, June 20, 2016 2:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

temped to joke "Coca Cola?" here but idk enough about the politics of 19th cent atlanta

Coke's founder did become the mayor several years after the atlanta race riots, interestingly (he says, after looking at wikipedia)

still making my way thru that Hope Hicks piece. whole lotta O_O in there

meanwhile, great, great work, kiu, just what we need here:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/20/man-arrested-for-wanting-to-kill-trump.html?via=twitter_page

Fanta was invented exclusively for nazi germany when they couldn't import coca cola syrup.

Invented by coke, that is. True fact.

no shit

in some better universe there's a version of me that doesn't feel the need to do this

Was there ever a soft drink marketed exclusively to bigots and xenophobes?

― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Monday, June 20, 2016 9:06 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all this soda talk and no one made the fanta joke

― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, June 20, 2016 10:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fanta poodoo

Is it a well known true fact? I only found out the other day hence my giddy excitement.

Trump adviser resigns after mocking Lewandowski on Twitter

Is it a well known true fact?

ha, idk! it does appear in the preamble of the wiki article tho (looked it up before post cuz feared i'd suddenly blanked on the fanta/fresca/faygo difference).

To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and apple pomace – the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith's exhorting his team to "use their imagination" (Fantasie in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

it's definitely a Crazy Fact i've been told at parties but i feel like if it were really ubiquitous they'd just make up a new soda.

Speaking of Faygo, are juggalos bigots and xenophobes, or am I unfairly demonizing an already-persecuted minority?

Trump adviser resigns after mocking Lewandowski on Twitter

looool @ "I'm resigning; call if I can help"

Nathan Rabin's book about Juggalos was entertaining, as was Colt Cabana's podcast about wrestling at the Gathering.