Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

yes i will pass it on to dave as soon as he gets in

does Bernie think Hillary may go to jail or something, and therefore the nom would automatically go to him? idgi either

he's like one of those tiny little holdout houses highways are built around

"because members of the CBC might want to participate in the Democratic convention as delegates but if we would have to run for the delegate slot at the county level or state level or district level, we would be running against our constituents and we're not going to do that,”

Hi, despite everything I'm still completely ignorant of delegate / superdelegate rulebook arcana. What do they mean running against their own constits?

Xp: a nailhouse!

yeah, nader was one of those too

bemusion

bemused revulsion = bemulsion

Russell Moore just went off on the whole evangelical summit thing for Trump today. Start here.

https://twitter.com/drmoore/status/745331665556299777

How's life, the way I understand it, pledged delegate slots are basically up for grabs to the general public, while superdelegate slots are held by politicians and political operators. If the CBC has to give up their super delegate slots, it would put mean they'd have to use up delegate slots meant for regular citizens to be a part of the convention.

re Sanders, *sigh* neophytes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Chisholm#1972_presidential_campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown#1992_presidential_election

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-until-convention-n566146

you're back!

just a two-post return BCZ SOMETHING WAS RONG ON THE INTERNET

*slam*

(over the transom)

staying in til the convention is how losing candidates with an ideological point to make use leverage

*slam*

I admit the Onyx quote was a surprise

Nader ran as an independent, a noteworthy difference.

About right, I suspect:

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/21/understand-donald-trump-campaign-understanding-real-estate-scam-artists/

great news everybody!

The billionaire developer increased his line of credit to the campaign by just $2.2 million last month — the smallest amount he has shelled out yet this year — but Trump said in a statement Tuesday that “if need be, there could be unlimited cash on hand as I would put up my own money.”

Such a move would effectively amount to abandonment of the Republican National Committee and the rest of the GOP ticket, which relies on the presidential nominee to help raise hundreds of millions to fund a national field organization for the fall elections.

GOP strategist and fundraiser Austin Barbour said Trump’s dismal fundraising efforts “could have a devastating impact” on the Republican Party generally.

“If they don’t fix this in a massive way, it’s going to have widespread implications down the ballot. It just is,” Barbour said. “If he’s not raising hundreds of millions of dollars, there are gubernatorial races, Senate races, congressional races, attorney general races, you name it, that will be impacted. Those races are dependent upon get-out-the-vote efforts from the RNC and the presidential campaign.”

what the fuck is bernie still doing in this campaign, why hasnt he dropped out yet

― marcos

negotiating. he's a politician, and he still has political goals.

I give you

https://twitter.com/nathanlino/status/745351032390049797

Again: YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.

do evangelicals still hate porn? I can't remember

Publicly? yes

you know what amazes me about this campaign is usually when you talk about a disaster, you say "everything that could go wrong did go wrong", and in this case, we really haven't even scratched the surface of the stuff that has yet to go wrong.

While we're talking about religion: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-religion/index.html

lol @ the real estate forum cover appearing twice in that photo

One might be the German edition.

Didn't take long.

https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/745421479676887040

https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/745422361957113856

Brandi Brandt wasn't really a *porn* star

but she did wind up going to prison for smuggling coke

also where the fuck does trump get off talking about someone's religion? has this guy ever, ever once been held up as some kind of paragon of morality?

apparently since trump loaned his campaign $45 mil in the primaries, any new donations he gets could theoretically just go straight into his pocket to pay off the "loan." Lol

So this pamphlet/program and prayer guide for Trump's big evangelical deal today is...something.

https://10kovf9g8y43ccer33tmd5o8-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Attendee-Prayer.pdf

Within a few days of the "Conversation with Donald Trump", set aside some time to process the event in prayer.

good advice tbh

“God, help me recall what I saw that may be
important.” - Sgt Joe Friday

“God, help me recall what I heard that I should
remember." - The Mekons

not entirely sure i want to know the difference anymore between the things i can and can't change

I admit the Onyx quote was a surprise

― volumetric god rays (DJP), Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Let the Morbs be Morbs!

Locking Up The Goth Vote...

http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-06-21/andrew-eldritch-sisters-of-mercy-will-make-another-album-if-trump-is-elected

lol talk about a boring attack on HRC from Trump. he's standing up there reading from a book

omg that was so fucking terrible

Wait, he was reading?!

he was reading from Peter Schweizer's book

Trump quotes from the book Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer, which he says “documents how Bill and Hillary used the state department to enrich themselves at America’s expense

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jun/22/us-election-2016-live-updates-donald-trump-speech-clinton-email-ethics

This line inspires the Trump crowd to chant “Trump! Trump! Trump!”

Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency.

For a demagogue, Trump is a really boring speaker.

meanwhile the junior senator from Florida returns to give me more hours of blog fun

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJohnYarmuth/status/745641223122259968

Rep. John Yarmuth‏ @RepJohnYarmuth

I'm on the House floor with @repjohnlewis & Dems staging a sit-in to demand action on commonsense gun legislation
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related to Trump's religion speechifying and announcing of Evangelical leaders and "evangelical executive advisory board":

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2016/06/21/donald-trumps-b-list-evangelical-advisory-board/

Lists of names like this are a fixture of the white evangelical subculture. This is what we have instead of ecclesiology or church polity. Some would say this is because evangelicals don’t have bishops or popes, but really it’s the opposite problem — we have more bishops and popes than we know what to do with. But these unofficial officials aren’t ordained by elders or elected by congregations. Their investiture as bishops and archbishops is based on book sales, income, radio outlets and — above all — the size and ROI of their direct-mail fundraising lists. It’s a hell of a way to run a church.

What that means in practice is that anyone who wants to mobilize large numbers of white evangelicals for any reason has to make a list of names. That’s true whether the cause is something benign, like promoting Bible reading, or something disgraceful, like trying to get a racist, misogynist, predatory authoritarian elected president. Recruiting white evangelical support always means giving those evangelicals permission to support your cause by listing the names of various celebrity gatekeepers who may have their trust. Hopefully, the folks whose support you’re seeking will see some name on your list of names that will allow them to believe they have permission to support you as well.'

In other words , this has fuck-all to do with religion as religion and entirely with tribal identification of a group sharing the name with a religious sect. Theology and morality and appeals to such have nothing really to do with it except as reinforcing subcultural shibboleths. He's effectively yelling "Woop! Woop!" and "Fam-uh-Lee! Fam-uh-Lee!" to let the crowd know he's down with the Clown, to torture a metaphor.

Tho I would never insult Juggalos en masse by accusing them of Trump support.

"When I see the crumbling roads and bridges, or the dilapidated airports, or the factories moving overseas to Mexico, or to other countries, I know these problems can all be fixed, but not by Hillary Clinton — only by me," Trump said from his Trump SoHo development in New York City, according to his prepared remarks. (Mexico is connected by land to the United States.)

Some would say this is because evangelicals don’t have bishops or popes, but really it’s the opposite problem — we have more bishops and popes than we know what to do with. But these unofficial officials aren’t ordained by elders or elected by congregations. Their investiture as bishops and archbishops is based on book sales, income, radio outlets and — above all — the size and ROI of their direct-mail fundraising lists. It’s a hell of a way to run a church.

the reformation was a good idea y/n

(Mexico is connected by land to the United States.)

Well, for NOW it is.