American politics 2016: Lawyers, Guns, and D-Money

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caro's examination of lyndon johnson's work to pass the civil rights act of 1957 has been pretty influential on my thoughts of late. it takes up most of the 1,167 page volume 3 of his lbj biography. if you start reading it now congress congress probably still won't have passed anything by the time you finish.

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link

Some rightsters were saying precisely that - that Democrats are deliberately both grandstanding on the issue, while subtly undermining the cause because they feel it will improve their reelection chances to continue having the gun bogeyman:

Here, from the Federalist: http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/21/democrats-tanked-gun-control-to-up-their-election-chances/

william the comptroller (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

caro's examination of lyndon johnson's work to pass the civil rights act of 1957 has been pretty influential on my thoughts of late. it takes up most of the 1,167 page volume 3 of his lbj biography. if you start reading it now congress congress probably still won't have passed anything by the time you finish.

― hypnic jerk (rushomancy),

I made that analogy last week; the difference is that the '57 bill, from what I can recall, had nothing potentially dangerous in it. At worst it was toothless.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I haven't gotten to that LBJ volume yet! (currently on Means of Ascent)

xxp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/21/democrats-tanked-gun-control-to-up-their-election-chances/

lol @ the implicit argument here that the majority party in the Senate can't pass bills w out the minority

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

if the GOP were all for these sensible gun control measures how come McConnell didn't have the votes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

frankly i don't think congress is capable of writing good laws right now. the long-term non-participation of the republican party in the democratic process (specifically compromise for the common good) has severely damaged the competency of the institution. so, you know, either you start passing bad laws or you go home and don't come back, y'know? and i'm wondering if that's what's driving the democratic sit-in, the growing fear that if they go home we won't let them come back.

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Correction: Expanded background checks are indeed a measure Democrats are currently demanding a vote on.
thanks gawker

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

assault weapons ban too!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

I think the focus on the no-fly/no-buy measure is unfortunate - it's clearly the *least* effective of the proposals on the table, as well as the most constitutionally questionable, but because it's the most attention-getting *and* the one GOP lawmakers marginally support it's becoming the rhetorical focus.

I would be super-happy w the expanded background checks + assault weapons ban, but there won't be any GOP votes supporting those.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

weird how there's zero coverage of this on NYT

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

because it's the most attention-getting *and* the one GOP lawmakers marginally support it's becoming the rhetorical focus

cf. that old thing about politics being the art of the possible

william the comptroller (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

no politician is seriously challenging the no-fly list, right? so what's the point :(

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

Patrick Murphy's credentials:

A CBS4 News investigation into Murphy’s history as both a CPA and a self-described small business owner, however, shows Murphy has in some cases exaggerated his experience and in other instances made claims that were misleading or outright false.

For instance, he has never worked a day in his life as a Certified Public Accountant.

And he was never a small business owner

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link

so what's the point

I'm guessing that any representative or senator who voted to restrict gun purchases by those named on the no-fly list would ruin their 100% rating from the NRA. The argument would be that flying is not a constitutional right, but gun purchasing is and must be protected from all attempts at restriction, based on the 'slippery slope' argument.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 23 June 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link

Hudson is handling the night shift with his usual aplomb:

http://gawker.com/republican-congressman-interrupts-sit-in-to-shriek-rad-1782470235

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 23 June 2016 03:45 (eight years ago) link

heh:

According to The Chicago Tribune, congresswoman and Iraq war veteran Tammy Duckworth even secreted her smartphone inside her prosthetic leg to prevent it from being taken away.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/us/politics/senate-gun-control.html?_r=0

The standoff, which began with a Democratic sit-in on the House floor just before noon on Wednesday, did not end until about 3 a.m. Thursday when Mr. Ryan — barreling over Democrats’ objections — took the rare and provocative step of calling a vote on a major appropriations bill in the wee hours and without any debate. He then adjourned the House, although a small group of Democrats remained on the floor Thursday morning. No legislative votes are scheduled until July 5.

Mr. Ryan was scheduled to give a news conference at 11:30 a.m. on Thursday.

The House approved the bill, which includes $1.1 billion in emergency financing to fight the mosquito-borne Zika virus — and more than $80 billion in other government spending — by a vote of 239 to 171 shortly after 3 a.m.

Republicans dashed from the chamber into the sticky heat gripping Washington and were met by protesters who jeered, with some shouting, “Do your job!”

Earlier, as Democrats fought for control of the floor, they pressed against the speaker’s dais, waving signs with the names of gun victims and chanting “No bill! No break!” as Mr. Ryan repeatedly banged his gavel in an attempt to restore order.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 June 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

Mr. Ryan was scheduled to give a news conference at 11:30 a.m. on Thursday.

this oughta be entertaining

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Tammy Duckworth even secreted her smartphone

uh

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/22/bipartisan-talks-on-zika-virus-break-down-ahead-of-july-4-recess/?wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

The House voted in the wee hours of Thursday morning to approve a $1.1 billion package to fight the Zika virus.

But the measure was the product of a deal between House and Senate Republicans and Democrats do not support it, meaning lawmakers are once again headed home without a tool aimed at fighting the Zika virus at the height of mosquito season.

Democrats abandoned negotiations on Wednesday in part because Republicans insisted that funding for the Zika measure be partially paid for by cuts to the Affordable Care Act and by shifting more than $100 million from the Ebola emergency fund, according to Democratic aides.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

idgi is that not going to pass the Senate or something

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link

I guess the House bill is a product of language crafting between House Republicans and Senate Republicans; but there is also a Senate passed bill that was crafted by Senate majority Republicans with some portions due to Democrat proposals

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

video is O_o

https://twitter.com/ABC10Frances/status/747150303762382849

brimstead, Sunday, 26 June 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

watch Heimbach's little nationalist front membership go up after this

my guess is this is all in service of finessing their "we are under attack" message

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 June 2016 05:41 (eight years ago) link

watch Heimbach's little nationalist front membership go up after this

this stuff needs a "thanks, Donald!" meme

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

for real

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 June 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

cruz hearing witness accuses keith ellison and andre carson of being in the muslim brotherhood

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-muslim-brotherhood_us_5772b615e4b0352fed3e0372?c040i2h8iu8ilik9

goole, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

oh how noble of him

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link

You're hiking through the woods when you suddenly encounter an enraged bear, and you're like holy shit it's an enraged bear and it's totally terrifying. Numerous dreadful scenarios flash through your mind because you know that this is a situation that often ends in tragedy. But then you notice that the bear has had its legs and all of its teeth removed. It's still a pretty scary sight, as it whips its shaggy torso about and roars racist epithets at you, but you recognize that there are limits to its menace and that the pitiable thing is clearly in its death throes. You walk calmly away as the bear's guttural harangue about political correctness gone mad fades into silence, and you're surprised four years later to see that same bear outside of your local post office, passing out flyers next your town's Lyndon LaRouche supporter.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

The Green Party candidate for Arizona House District 26 (in Tempe) is Cara Nicole Trujillo, indie comic publisher and cosplayer.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/state-house-candidate-and-az-powergirl-cara-nicole-trujillo-brings-politics-to-phoenix-comicon-2016-8338950

https://azpowergirl4u.com/

https://azpowergirl4u.com/issues/

What stood out to me is a mention in her personal stances:

AZ Powergirl presents herself as an outsider who may vote with Democrats or Republicans but won't feel beholden to either party. Environmental issues are important to the Green Party candidate — she's a big believer in reusing gray water, for example. She describes herself as "very pro-limited government." Her father is a gunsmith, she says, and she's pro-gun rights for the most part.

She wants to help local businesses, decentralize government power throughout the state, reform asset-forfeiture laws, and improve education. She's not running as a Clean Elections candidate, because she thinks doling out public money to candidates is a "scam."

Which is certainly a interesting mix of positions, and I'm wondering how much of it is just a local Arizona culture thing in the language; is claiming "very pro-limited government" a tribal shibboleth one needs to get any funding or support down there? Everything she advocates sorta, y'know, requires strong regulation & enforcement. There's just this large gap between what she mentions o her issues page and what her interview quotes entail.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 30 June 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/28/zika-funding-bill-expected-to-be-blocked-in-the-senate/

Senate Democrats on Tuesday blocked a $1.1 billion Zika-virus funding package drafted by congressional Republicans, citing politically motivated language aimed at Planned Parenthood and environmental regulations.

The partisan clash casts serious doubt on whether Congress will be able to heed increasingly dire warnings from public health officials and provide new funds to combat the virus before lawmakers leave Washington next month for an extended congressional recess.

Top Senate leaders appeared to be sharply at odds after the vote failed 52 to 48, with 60 votes needed to advance the legislation.

...

The package also loosens Environmental Protection Agency restrictions on pesticides and strikes a measure that would have banned the display of the Confederate battle flag at cemeteries run by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

On Monday, Reid called the bill “nothing more than a goodie bag for the fringes of the Republican Party.” The White House has threatened to veto the legislation, and Democrats argue the additions were politically motivated and intended to kill the entire funding package.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 June 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link

same old same ol'

Upon its return in the middle of next week, Congress only has about seven days in session before taking off the last two weeks of July for the national political conventions, followed by another five-week break as part of the traditional August “recess”.
“We are working less days than since I was in high school,” Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) complained Thursday at a press conference highlighting how the Senate might end up with the fewest days in session since 1956.

Early momentum for legislation that would have provided criminal sentencing reform has faded. Republicans split into two camps, one supporting the effort out of fiscal and religious duty to give prisoners a helping hand, the other taking a traditional law-and-order approach. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has decided what to do … by not deciding what to do with the issue. He’s allowing it to twist in the wind.

From Washington Post

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 July 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

sentencing reform was never going to happen and Im embarrassed that I thought it had a chance

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

District Court judge carefully rehearses the establishment and equal protection clauses, enjoins MS anti-LGBT bill from taking effect.

http://files.eqcf.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/35-Memo-Opinion-and-Order.pdf

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/750708639070031873

Breaking: "Fox News Host and Author Gretchen Carlson Files Sexual Harassment/Retaliation Lawsuit Against Fox Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes"

goole, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/

I don't think I saw this above - a friend's friend described it as "This is Lawful Evil aligned to the point of hilarity but brings up points well worth consideration" - which is fair enough.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:12 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/latest-of-obamas-safety-rules-on-arctic-drilling-are-released.html?ref=politics

The Obama administration on Thursday announced new safety and environmental regulations to control offshore drilling in the Arctic Ocean off the Alaskan coast.

These are the latest in a series of Obama administration rules designed to slow the extraction of fossil fuels from American public lands and waters.

The rules fell short of many environmentalists’ demands to cut off Arctic drilling entirely, but oil companies complained that the regulations would stymie new energy exploration.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 July 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

The D is for douchebag

Ryan reiterated that "every Republican and every Democrat wants to see less gun violence," a statement that comes after a decision was made to indefinitely postpone a vote on gun legislation seeking to keep guns out of the hands of suspected terrorists.

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

We just need to wish for it super, super hard.

Waking Up Is For Suckers (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

All that's required in accomplishing a task is to want it. Duh.

Waking Up Is For Suckers (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Regarding the Atlantic article, it factually points out that party machinery has broken down to the point where there are few or no mechanisms to enforce party discipline any more. Rauch's nostalgia for smoke-filled rooms, machine politics and party bosses seems amazingly backward-looking and useless to me. We aren't going to regress in that direction.

Some salient points he doesn't examine are: why having two and only two viable parties is supposed to be A Good Thing, and what good or bad results would happen if the many built-in privileges of the two major parties were removed from state election laws and Congress's traditional rules, so that parties broke apart into smaller, more closely knit affinity groups (which seems to be happening in all aspects of society these days). It might result in even worse chaos, or it might force the emergence of new organizing principles for coalition building. But he seems uninterested in the future.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link

he might just feel like 2 parties in a first past the post system is a given and so without significant changes to our system are likely to persist

Mordy, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

Yep, that article's nostalgia for the old days seems simplistic, not fully accurate and not really relevant to today.

Regarding the current House and Paul Ryan:

When the tea party types objected to the lack of due process in the Republican gun proposal that was going to be voted upon (or at least professed that this was their reason), and Dems were against it too (for different reasons), Ryan just decided not to bring anything up for vote instead of encouraging or developing another bill on the subject.

On other issues he won't alter his take either (as has been discussed here, and as Krugman brought up again):

A couple of weeks ago Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House, sort of laid out both a health care plan and a tax plan. I say sort of, because there weren’t enough details in either case to do any kind of quantitative analysis. But it was clear that Mr. Ryan’s latest proposals had the same general shape as every other proposal he’s released: huge tax cuts for the wealthy combined with savage but smaller cuts in aid to the poor, and the claim that all of this would somehow reduce the budget deficit thanks to unspecified additional measures.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

first past the post system is a given

it only is until it isn't. if people understood how other systems could be used instead, they might decide those systems would work better than what we have now. redesign at the state level would not take as much money or effort as national changes, but would lay the groundwork.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link


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