Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Scottish Lab leader Dugdale rejects case for independence:

I understand why people may move to support independence at this stage, but when you have just removed yourself from your second biggest market, why would you want to leave your first?

(Cameron is a dangerous political vacuum)

Pretty big turnout at the pro-Corbyn rally outside parliament https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/747472894268162049

Tim Harford just posted this, hollow lolz galore http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/future-britons-will-find-it-hard-to-believe-that-anyone-voted-to/

Whoops

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/27/sp-cuts-united-kingdom-sovereign-credit-rating-to-aa-from-aaa.html

Greenwald approvingly links to "British journalist Tom Ewing" :D

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/

Curtice says there is a small majority for independence in Scotland, but points out all the polls are shaky at best
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36646789

This thread is interesting, wasn't sure where best to post it:
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/746765092218277888

Gist of it being that, in the wake of WWII, corporations were seen as saner and safer than nations, and now...

And we're off.

"Juncker says he has imposed a Presidential Ban on all contact between EU officials and UK officials until Art 50."

'I know none of you has ever had a proper job in your lives', Farage tells MEPs to boos. Schulz urges calm: 'Don't act like UKIP'

Farage:

"You all laughed at me. Well, you're not laughing now, are you?"

BBC has cut coverage wtf. Alyn Smith gets a standing ovation for

I speak for Scotland in this house ... Scotland did not let you down, do not let Scotland down now

British fishermen have been warned that, despite the promises made by the leave campaign, they cannot expect to be granted greater catches after the UK leaves the European Union, and they may face increased economic turmoil.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/british-fishermen-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches

"You all laughed at me. Well, you're not laughing now, are you?"

omg did he actually say this

is that a quote from a serial killer movie?

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/747729114828779521 (Alyn Smith video)

xp Bob Monkhouse: "They laughed when I said I was going to be a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now."

haha yes!

I'm told Boris Johnson has made clear to Tory right he WILL end EU free movement after Telegraph column y'day angered ppl.

The big think-pieces drying up today, huh

Farage:

"You all laughed at me. Well, you're not laughing now, are you?"
― stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 10:47

Farage is Walder Frey.

Here's Farage's speech if you can stomach it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36650014

Family rifts over Brexit: ‘I can barely look at my parents’

Jamie, 28, grew up in a council flat with a single mother who worked hard to make their difficult life better for her children. “I’ve always been so proud of her for all the things she sacrificed for us. She’s warm, kind, generous and funny. She has such acute sympathy that she’s been known to cry hearing about the illness of other people’s relatives. Oh, and she also hates immigrants.”

It is not a prejudice that Jamie shares. “My mum voted to leave the EU because she doesn’t want non-British citizens here. Despite the fact that my brother and I have been extremely vocal about our reasons for staying in, she’s chosen to vote out because she doesn’t like the local Asian population. It makes no sense to me.

“When she tells me wildly embellished stories about how disgusting the local peaceful, quiet, mostly elderly immigrant community are, I laugh at her and calmly tell her she’s wrong. Most of the time, I can see past her views. But right now, I’m angry and ashamed.”

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/another-media-setup/

Craig Murray is an unreliable weirdo but this did raise eyebrows. I didn't know the Pride heckler was a PR.

Has farage had a proper job? Wasn't he a trader? Did he have some old productive work I haven't heard about?

Wasn't he a commodity broker for a while?

He worked on the London Metals Exchange, the only open-outcry exchange left in Europe (and the exchange with the highest levels of drunkenness, allegedly).

Stephen Crabb is standing for Tory leader

too ugly

bit of a sideways move?

xp the Corbyn Pride heckler was outed as a PR shill almost the second the footage was made public. Corbyn was at the Orlando vigil with all of the shadow cabinet and has gone to Pride and similar longer than that silly little twink yuppie has been alive.

Why is Farage like he is? When he says "you're not laughing now" he's practically reverberating with emotion. I'm really intrigued by the psychology / identity politics of it.

have you ever heard of egomania

Well yeah, but why is he also a fascist, why does he have this victim thing going on?

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

xp That's basically what fascism is?

And was an alcoholic.

That's what he is but why.

MPs are choosing between Watson and Angela Eagle to be the Corbyn challenger, Sky says

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

someone could find this sort of thing very offensive Hey Bob

cool we've reached the pop psychoanalysis bit of the links thread

Sept 9th for announcement of new Tory leader

Corbyn loses no confidence vote 172 to 40

212 out of 229(?) voted

Corrected figs from @iainjwatson: 176 no confidence, 40 support, 4 abstentions

Passed an old Greek guy in the street earlier, "The English! They've gone crayzy!" Don't think he was too sane himself though.

George Eaton Verified account
‏@georgeeaton

40 MPs back Corbyn. That means he'd need 10 MEPs if not on the ballot automatically.

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747816359325761537

That Farage speech is O_O. EU has UK over a barrel and he's just baring his ass and telling them to pucker up. Reminded of Rhodes in Day of the Dead, pointlessly frothing and indignant to the bitter end as he's being pulled to pieces.

Kippers will be lapping up Farage (and Nuttall) behaviour in Euro Parliament. I'm a bit surprised The Sun still aren't cheering him on in public.

The Sun is behaving very oddly. That they've even admitted this is having a "rocky start" is unusual too.

Ben Judah
‏@b_judah
As in the USSR, there is immensely charismatic out of control Boris promising a fraudulent "independence" the elite are unable to check.