Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Well yeah, but why is he also a fascist, why does he have this victim thing going on?

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

xp That's basically what fascism is?

And was an alcoholic.

That's what he is but why.

MPs are choosing between Watson and Angela Eagle to be the Corbyn challenger, Sky says

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

someone could find this sort of thing very offensive Hey Bob

cool we've reached the pop psychoanalysis bit of the links thread

Sept 9th for announcement of new Tory leader

Corbyn loses no confidence vote 172 to 40

212 out of 229(?) voted

Corrected figs from @iainjwatson: 176 no confidence, 40 support, 4 abstentions

Passed an old Greek guy in the street earlier, "The English! They've gone crayzy!" Don't think he was too sane himself though.

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40 MPs back Corbyn. That means he'd need 10 MEPs if not on the ballot automatically.

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747816359325761537

That Farage speech is O_O. EU has UK over a barrel and he's just baring his ass and telling them to pucker up. Reminded of Rhodes in Day of the Dead, pointlessly frothing and indignant to the bitter end as he's being pulled to pieces.

Kippers will be lapping up Farage (and Nuttall) behaviour in Euro Parliament. I'm a bit surprised The Sun still aren't cheering him on in public.

The Sun is behaving very oddly. That they've even admitted this is having a "rocky start" is unusual too.

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As in the USSR, there is immensely charismatic out of control Boris promising a fraudulent "independence" the elite are unable to check.

Can only be a matter of time before the tanks roll in to shell Parliament.

Any chance of a revolution? Or is this inherently one, just in totally the wrong direction.
Is there any way this won't be negative for way too many.

http://steve-patterson.com/less-than-1000-brits-googled-what-is-the-eu-after-referendum/

https://medium.com/@carlgardner/for-britains-sake-how-we-can-solve-this-crisis-d4b20492b303#.yjz03217k

One of the 40 who voted for Corbyn has now recanted so he's down to 39.

Paul Mason is reporting that if Corbyn wins, he'll devolve more power to the members and put mandatory reselection in place so MPs can be replaced if they don't have the backing of their local party.

https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G?ie=UTF8&ref_=asap_bc#navbar

Humorous gay erotica writer Chuck Tingle's newest book Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union.

George Eaton so take with a massive pinch of salt but he's reporting that the reason nobody has challenged Corbyn officially is that they still think he'll resign, which is optimistic.

It's pretty funny to see part of the anti-Corbyn group stomping their feet, abusing him and the "£3 members" and generally acting like spoiled children and another section saying "Corbyn needs to go immediately but in a leadership election against someone supporting an end to free movement / who voted for Iraq / etc I'd vote for him".

@JenWilliamsMEN: Wow. Farage on Mcr's racist tram thugs: 'I'd say to them that if they had those feelings those feelings should not be as strong this week'

xyzzz was asking in the other thread about what the work on the civil service/whitehall side might look like - think this might be a solid guess:

http://infacts.org/henry-viii-perils-brexit/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/europe/index/edit/constitution-unit/research/europe/briefing-papers/briefing-paper-1

might be some shortcuts, but this is just digital govt geeks taking a guess:
https://twitter.com/richardjpope/status/747788280192708609

tx looking now.

https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/747682225143984128

TIMES POLL: Should Jeremy Corbyn resign?
Public: 49% Yes, 30% No
Labour voters: 54% No, 35% Yes
(YouGov/Times)

Oh the fannies

There's obligations to be met to be the official opposition in the HofC. Lab now can't meet then. Tomorrow the SNP will seek to replace them
https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/747898026157608965

https://i.imgflip.com/16lg9z.jpg

@tnewtondunn Wow, Merkel wants a #Brexit rethink. Chf of stf Peter Altmaier, UK "should have the possibility to reconsider the consequences of an exit"

The Associated Press ‏@AP 10m10 minutes ago
BREAKING: Germany's Merkel says she sees no way to reverse British EU exit vote.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brexit-parliament-cameron-merkel-corbyn-1.3655607

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-perilous-nationalism-at-brexit?mbid=gnep&intcid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true

Dutch PM Rutte gives delay on Art 50 triggering, because: "England has collapsed politically, monetarily, constitutionally and economically"

^ gets it.

Would be about the only thing he gets tbf

That New Yorker article gets closest to the thread that's been running through my mind - that the thing that has made Britain (or parts of it) a dynamic, exciting, multicultural place are broadly the same factors that have made it a jingoistic, exceptionalist, mistrustful and belligerent place. The twin consequences of the legacy of empire run right through this referendum.

It's amazing how poorly the politicians are coping. For a bunch of scheming power mongers they're exceptionally poor at seizing the moment.

Crabb's trying his best.

Yes. Javid was terrible on Today.

Although maybe he was "good" because he didn't actually say anything other than Crabb's name a lot.

Guys I'm kind of sick of two threads..?

^ me too tbh

Possibly one new consolidated thread needed now that we have moved past the neo-Con era into a period of sustained chaos.

question is who will have the brass balls required to trigger "Article 50: the thread"

John Kerry now making noises about whether Brexit will happen

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/29/john-kerry-brexit-could-be-walked-back-david-cameron

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmGmz05WQAEQVec.jpg

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/29/brexiters-didnt-plan-arsonists-never-carry-water?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook

https://twitter.com/moyeenislam/status/748096432465453057

Not an official Facebook page, is it? It was praising Marine le Pen earlier.

Bleakly comic to imagine reaction of the volksgenossen in left behind by globalization places when they realise their vote has left them with an asian chancellor pursiung yet more punishing austerity... not going to happen though. I expect this is just Crabb and Javed trying to bid up the price of their eventual support for whoever.

Crabb's trying his best.

He needs to come out of his shell more