Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G?ie=UTF8&ref_=asap_bc#navbar

Humorous gay erotica writer Chuck Tingle's newest book Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

George Eaton so take with a massive pinch of salt but he's reporting that the reason nobody has challenged Corbyn officially is that they still think he'll resign, which is optimistic.

It's pretty funny to see part of the anti-Corbyn group stomping their feet, abusing him and the "£3 members" and generally acting like spoiled children and another section saying "Corbyn needs to go immediately but in a leadership election against someone supporting an end to free movement / who voted for Iraq / etc I'd vote for him".

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

@JenWilliamsMEN: Wow. Farage on Mcr's racist tram thugs: 'I'd say to them that if they had those feelings those feelings should not be as strong this week'

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

xyzzz was asking in the other thread about what the work on the civil service/whitehall side might look like - think this might be a solid guess:

http://infacts.org/henry-viii-perils-brexit/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/europe/index/edit/constitution-unit/research/europe/briefing-papers/briefing-paper-1

might be some shortcuts, but this is just digital govt geeks taking a guess:
https://twitter.com/richardjpope/status/747788280192708609

woof, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

tx looking now.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/747682225143984128

TIMES POLL: Should Jeremy Corbyn resign?
Public: 49% Yes, 30% No
Labour voters: 54% No, 35% Yes
(YouGov/Times)

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Oh the fannies

There's obligations to be met to be the official opposition in the HofC. Lab now can't meet then. Tomorrow the SNP will seek to replace them
https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/747898026157608965

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/16lg9z.jpg

cozen, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

@tnewtondunn Wow, Merkel wants a #Brexit rethink. Chf of stf Peter Altmaier, UK "should have the possibility to reconsider the consequences of an exit"

The Associated Press ‏@AP 10m10 minutes ago
BREAKING: Germany's Merkel says she sees no way to reverse British EU exit vote.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Dutch PM Rutte gives delay on Art 50 triggering, because: "England has collapsed politically, monetarily, constitutionally and economically"

^ gets it.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 06:58 (seven years ago) link

Would be about the only thing he gets tbf

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

That New Yorker article gets closest to the thread that's been running through my mind - that the thing that has made Britain (or parts of it) a dynamic, exciting, multicultural place are broadly the same factors that have made it a jingoistic, exceptionalist, mistrustful and belligerent place. The twin consequences of the legacy of empire run right through this referendum.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link

It's amazing how poorly the politicians are coping. For a bunch of scheming power mongers they're exceptionally poor at seizing the moment.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

Crabb's trying his best.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:26 (seven years ago) link

Yes. Javid was terrible on Today.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:27 (seven years ago) link

Although maybe he was "good" because he didn't actually say anything other than Crabb's name a lot.

Guys I'm kind of sick of two threads..?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:29 (seven years ago) link

^ me too tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:29 (seven years ago) link

Possibly one new consolidated thread needed now that we have moved past the neo-Con era into a period of sustained chaos.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link

question is who will have the brass balls required to trigger "Article 50: the thread"

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 09:12 (seven years ago) link

John Kerry now making noises about whether Brexit will happen

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/29/john-kerry-brexit-could-be-walked-back-david-cameron

Alba, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 09:19 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/moyeenislam/status/748096432465453057

stet, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:13 (seven years ago) link

Not an official Facebook page, is it? It was praising Marine le Pen earlier.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

Bleakly comic to imagine reaction of the volksgenossen in left behind by globalization places when they realise their vote has left them with an asian chancellor pursiung yet more punishing austerity... not going to happen though. I expect this is just Crabb and Javed trying to bid up the price of their eventual support for whoever.

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:29 (seven years ago) link

Crabb's trying his best.

He needs to come out of his shell more

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link

idk, could be an effective pincer movement with Javid.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link

I can't see him elevated in a Johnson or May cabinet. Can probably only move sideways.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

Pat 'Im never coming back to wherever this is' Glass has resigned after less than 48 hours in the Shadow Cabinet.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:39 (seven years ago) link

ffs!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:41 (seven years ago) link

she wrote to her CLP yesterday to inform them that she was stepping down as an MP at the next election, 24 hours after getting her 'dream job'

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:48 (seven years ago) link

dreams that shatter like glass

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:48 (seven years ago) link

@ReutersJamie "Our base case is that Scotland will vote for independence and institute a new currency" - JP Morgan

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

and another one's gone:

Emma Lewell-Buck has announced she is resigning as a shadow communities minister

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 10:54 (seven years ago) link

He needs to come out of his shell more

Or his closet.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

now now

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

actually no, fuck him

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:05 (seven years ago) link

He voted against gay marriage

Oh right

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

thread shd've been called "UK Politics: Dark, Gritty Reboot"

taking straight talking honest politics a little too literally (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link

Cameron telling Corbyn to resign atm. Presumably an attempt at reverse psychology.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:18 (seven years ago) link

to be fair to stephen crabb mp he had to clarify that he doesn't believe in or endorse the "gay cure" only because he has links to an organisaton that financially supported a conference on the subject

conrad, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:19 (seven years ago) link

lots of labour mps have been very clear about their sympathy with cameron over the years so he's just returning the favour I guess

conrad, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link

"That New Yorker article gets closest to the thread that's been running through my mind - that the thing that has made Britain (or parts of it) a dynamic, exciting, multicultural place are broadly the same factors that have made it a jingoistic, exceptionalist, mistrustful and belligerent place. The twin consequences of the legacy of empire run right through this referendum."

always the way. anything challenging the established order will always come with a parallel, nasty reactionary wave waiting to explode.

could just be my own feelings, but does feel like there is a lot of fear and tension in the air right now. cant imagine what its like elsewhere in the country, outside of london.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link

It might take the queens intervention for this not to end terrible - and that depends on whether leave voters will listen to her.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:30 (seven years ago) link

If you read the Mail you'd think every thing was pretty much fine. No coverage of the financial collapse or nowt.

stet, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

If the Remain campaign had talked about the consequences for weekly bin collections they'd have won by a landslide.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

the plp are still waiting for someone to take their byn away tbh

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link

best possible outcome would be the queen somehow saying in a binding way i decree u must have a do-over thereby also exploding the existence of the monarchy?

conrad, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link


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