Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

It's amazing how poorly the politicians are coping. For a bunch of scheming power mongers they're exceptionally poor at seizing the moment.

Crabb's trying his best.

Yes. Javid was terrible on Today.

Although maybe he was "good" because he didn't actually say anything other than Crabb's name a lot.

Guys I'm kind of sick of two threads..?

^ me too tbh

Possibly one new consolidated thread needed now that we have moved past the neo-Con era into a period of sustained chaos.

question is who will have the brass balls required to trigger "Article 50: the thread"

John Kerry now making noises about whether Brexit will happen

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/29/john-kerry-brexit-could-be-walked-back-david-cameron

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmGmz05WQAEQVec.jpg

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/29/brexiters-didnt-plan-arsonists-never-carry-water?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook

https://twitter.com/moyeenislam/status/748096432465453057

Not an official Facebook page, is it? It was praising Marine le Pen earlier.

Bleakly comic to imagine reaction of the volksgenossen in left behind by globalization places when they realise their vote has left them with an asian chancellor pursiung yet more punishing austerity... not going to happen though. I expect this is just Crabb and Javed trying to bid up the price of their eventual support for whoever.

Crabb's trying his best.

He needs to come out of his shell more

idk, could be an effective pincer movement with Javid.

I can't see him elevated in a Johnson or May cabinet. Can probably only move sideways.

Pat 'Im never coming back to wherever this is' Glass has resigned after less than 48 hours in the Shadow Cabinet.

ffs!

she wrote to her CLP yesterday to inform them that she was stepping down as an MP at the next election, 24 hours after getting her 'dream job'

dreams that shatter like glass

@ReutersJamie "Our base case is that Scotland will vote for independence and institute a new currency" - JP Morgan

and another one's gone:

Emma Lewell-Buck has announced she is resigning as a shadow communities minister

He needs to come out of his shell more

Or his closet.

now now

actually no, fuck him

He voted against gay marriage

Oh right

thread shd've been called "UK Politics: Dark, Gritty Reboot"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ

Cameron telling Corbyn to resign atm. Presumably an attempt at reverse psychology.

to be fair to stephen crabb mp he had to clarify that he doesn't believe in or endorse the "gay cure" only because he has links to an organisaton that financially supported a conference on the subject

lots of labour mps have been very clear about their sympathy with cameron over the years so he's just returning the favour I guess

"That New Yorker article gets closest to the thread that's been running through my mind - that the thing that has made Britain (or parts of it) a dynamic, exciting, multicultural place are broadly the same factors that have made it a jingoistic, exceptionalist, mistrustful and belligerent place. The twin consequences of the legacy of empire run right through this referendum."

always the way. anything challenging the established order will always come with a parallel, nasty reactionary wave waiting to explode.

could just be my own feelings, but does feel like there is a lot of fear and tension in the air right now. cant imagine what its like elsewhere in the country, outside of london.

It might take the queens intervention for this not to end terrible - and that depends on whether leave voters will listen to her.

If you read the Mail you'd think every thing was pretty much fine. No coverage of the financial collapse or nowt.

If the Remain campaign had talked about the consequences for weekly bin collections they'd have won by a landslide.

the plp are still waiting for someone to take their byn away tbh

best possible outcome would be the queen somehow saying in a binding way i decree u must have a do-over thereby also exploding the existence of the monarchy?

Alan Duncan describing Bojo as "Silvio Borisconi" was pretty pointed.

> If you read the Mail you'd think every thing was pretty much fine.

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-mail-has-explained-what-brexit-means-and-its-readers-seem-shocked--Z1772TI4aNW

sun equivalent:

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-sun-has-also-got-around-to-telling-its-readers-what-brexit-will-mean-and-they-are-not-happy--WySvafrAVZ

Miliband Minor and Harman calling for Jezza to GTF

I'd suggest that us yanks might start offering you our hands in marriage but I suppose we still need to wait a few months to see if that would be anything more than a frying pan > fire situation.

Good summary: http://piercepenniless.tumblr.com/post/146651963407/keepcorbyn-corbynism-in-its-crisis

@BBCBreaking: UK access to the EU's single market requires freedom of movement, European Council President Donald Tusk says http://bbc.in/292x3B0

Not much breaking about that, tbh.

braek tory hearts news maybe. Though important because it's Tusk, who is apparently the one who matters most here (Merkel aside)

xp haha yeah its a non-starter. UK have nothing to negotiate with. Seeing a few things around how Paris and Berlin could carve out the London Banking industry for themselves in the coming years.

Look at the news to read how Corbyn has resigned yet the man hangs on - and seems to be unruffled so far.

The road to deselection sounds long but looks like the only one left if Corbyn hangs on for long enough to win the contest. Only the unions can save the Lab right I think something something Clause 4 something something.

'This is f***ing personal': Labour rebel Jess Phillips screams at Corbyn's right-hand man Seumas Milne after left-winger 'threatened to take a blow-torch to her neck'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3665343/This-f-ing-personal-Labour-rebel-Jess-Phillips-screams-Corbyn-s-right-hand-man-Seumas-Milne-left-winger-threatened-blow-torch-neck.html

this has to be a new low in the field of intentionally misleading headlines, right? (IE the alleged left-winger who threatened Phillips is some random on twitter, not Milne)

https://twitter.com/b_judah/status/748097437047332864

Ben Judah ‏@b_judah 2h2 hours ago Hackney, London

It is crucial to understand EU must at all costs stop Le Pen winning in 2017. Best way to do this? Reward France the banks and their taxes.

Yeah, saw that earlier, with screengrabbed headline, and even in today's "all bets are off" times, it seemed worth checking.

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Corbyn probably won't win even if he hangs on. The inevitable moderate/right join-the-labour-party campaign/push is already beginning. Normally it'd stand no chance of getting the numbers to beat the Corbyn membership, but this isn't normal.

there seem to be a fair number of centrist or centre-right journalists and commentators and celebs tweeting about how they are joining Labour specifically to vote against Corbyn, partly because they are disillusioned with the tories after brexit - don't know if that represents a movement bigger thana handful of high profile ppl on twitter though. also, seems like mail and spectator journalists tweeting about joining to axe Corbyn could rally wavering Labour party members behind him if anything.