Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

simple "abolish minimum wage/force unemployed loafers into jobs" policy shd carry enough popular support

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hoarding for a building that is actually being built at old st roundabout as we type

such piquant self-awareness

it is actually a factory making white collars though

Other than maybe Sturgeon, do any hyper-effective machine politicians exist in the UK any more or are we reduced to literally everyone running around like headless chickens?

we like our politicians like the Eng football team

suspect Frank Field is not fully organic

Watson not standing against Corbyn according to Sky.

and watson apparently says that corbyn wants to quit but mcdonnell won't let him

That's the thing - how do you get anyone other than Londoners - who are among the likely to be the most hostile to it anyway - to vote for it.

people just have tho

Do what he says! Do what he says!

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I thought it was Seamus Milne who was supposedly preventing Corbyn from resigning?

Two little urchins with thick-ass East London accents just pulled up on some kind of weird go-kart and offered to take away the three sacks of rubble I've had in my front garden for six weeks. How much do you want for it? I said. 'A tenner'. Do you have a truck? I asked, smirking at them. They gestured to their weird go-kart. "Nah we'll use this." OK. What are you going to use it for? "We need to harden up our garden". I keep a straight face. OK go on then. Those strong little boys, one about 8, the other maybe 12, hoisted these incredibly heavy sacks of rubble up into their thingy, balancing one in their laps, and pootled off. I'm telling you it's a sign. It won't be long before the rag and bone man starts coming round.

Where I live you get scrapper vans circulating the estate every day, occasionally some guy shouting "any old iron". When I got a new cooker last year the old one was gone in minutes.

Real England FTW

Entrepreneurial frontiersmen of the new economy.

Leave anything outside in Hackney and it will be gone in ten minutes.

There are people who roam around the streets looking for anything they can conceivably sell or use themselves. It came in pretty handy when i was moving out. There's something enormously grim about people very politely asking if they can sort through black bags of your rubbish to see if they can find a pair of shoes that will fit them.

Angela Eagle has now said she won't stand against Corbyn.

not only do we have scrappers in Hull but they still use a horse and cart

go-kartoneros

Lol! It is probably a few years since I've seen the old trap and cart variety scrapper, but I've seen plenty of them.

Saw the full trap and cart variety in Hounslow a couple of years ago, but none since then

Kevin SchofieldVerified ‏@PolhomeEditor
Angela Eagle will NOT challenge Jeremy Corbyn. She will only stand when/if there is a contest. "It's a Mexican stand-off", says senior MP.

so does this mean someone will stand as a stalking horse? Corbyn's people seem to be pushing for rebels to put up or shut up and start a leadership challenge, would his opponents prefer that we have a few more days/weeks of Corbyn trying to struggle on without support from PLP to emphasise that his position is untenable? or is it just Eagle's reluctance to be seen as disloyal (and the pressure she's under from her local party)? if the latter, it seems pretty hollow/unconvincing given the fact that a contest of some sort now seems inevitable.

Recycling in that manner would be a healthy thing to have come back but it may just reflect how broke some people are right now. Would be good to get back to a paradigm where things were built to last and be repairable rather than throwing everything away all the time.
When the traveller park up was here they had a not very safe method of smelting copper fro various sources which stank the place out.

But there was some comment on people relearning various crafts thanks to recessions etc. Would at least mean they were practising some forms of self reliant activity. Learning to sew, grow your own veg, repair your own car whatever. On the other hand watching Hidden Killers of the Post-war Home talking about how dodgy some people's attempts at d.i.y. when it was first coming to prominence were one hopes that might be something that wouldn't repeat.

Could be some good come of things though or am I pollyannaing?

Fwiw, since everyone's a brexpert or Nostradamus these days, but this is bleak.

@ DPJHodges: Told Angela Eagle will declare tomorrow at 3.00 pm.

corbyn must look a wee bit deranged to the great_british_public at this point

his opponents have been successful in spinning this as "Corbyn vs almost all of his MPs" rather than "almost all Labour MPs vs the Labour membership", unfortunately.

crace (lol) commons sketch for the guardian:

"He rose in almost total silence, his face twisted in anger: the dividing line between stubborn ambition and personal principle has become increasingly opaque."

this idea that his refusal to resign is a sign of his ego or personal ambition: this seems crazy to me, everything I've read leads me to think that, at a personal level, Corbyn would have been much happier continuing to pootle along as a back-bencher, attending to his pet causes, but feels duty bound to fight on now the leadership has fallen into his lap. but his opponents are pushing the arrogant ego-manic angle hard, can see how it might look that way to a lot of people.

must've been hard for the PLP to spin this given the media's adoration of Corbyn

Goes beyond "Corbyn the egomaniac" into "Corbyn the personality cult" when they want to dismiss his supporters. How you can simultaneously accuse someone of cultivating a personality cult and not having a personality, i don't know.

He looked stubborn, wildly overoptimistic and pig-headed but idk if those are values that the British public disdains more than the bullying / cowardice / elitism / incompetence of the plotters. Everyone comes out of this looking terrible.

I think it would leave him heartbroken if the members didn't get to vote.

announcement of an announcement: angela eagle press conference tomorrow at 3

xps I know that being a horrible sneering cunt is part of the job description for a parliamentary sketch writer, but Crace is something else, just vile

sweet, we can have a repeat of "everybody who votes for Corbyn is a misogynist"

oh good, a return to recycling, self-reliance and crafts, using nothing but one's own honest hard-working hands and the copper out of people's phone lines and school roofs

good luck Labour Party, wish I could see a way for you to unfuck yourself, for the media to become something other than a pack of right-wing hyenas, etc

hm that probably read as anti-traveller, but have had both of those happen round here recently and as far as I know neither was done by travellers

...I mean that it probably sounded anti-traveller because Stevo's post which I was replying to mentioned travellers, not just because...

I am digging a p. deep hole here huh

this small gang of irreconcilables

Labour paper The Grauniad on Corbyn's enemies

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/29/12060072/brexit-economic-forecast-economist

economics intelligence unit view on what the brexit will mean for the british economy in next few years told in 7 tweets. grim reading.

worth looking at his twitter feed as he offers additional comments re: rise of radical right after uk makes some concessions to Europe on migration in order to get (somewhat reduced) access to the European economic area

hear, hear
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that is from when she was standing for deputy leadership and Corbyn was standing for leadership, right? I remember getting that email at the time.

Union statement on Corbyn:

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/748235818758709248

best way to clear the air after a leadership election would be for every MP who supports the loser to resign from the party. maybe take cyanide.

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<I>“It’s a great tragedy. He does have a members’ mandate, but those members who join a political party know that you also need a parliamentary mandate if you’re to form a government,” Watson told the BBC.

“You have to have the authority of the members and your members of parliament, and I’m afraid he doesn’t have that with our MPs.”</I>

mmmmonomaniacal dissonance

xp because of the Wangland...