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has he been drinking tonight

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ooft.

he did a pleasantly mad speech/interview thingy on gravity's rainbow

he's one of us really

start posting to ilx, paul

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/29/leave-donor-plans-new-party-to-replace-ukip-without-farage

cannot even comprehend the pain i want this cunt to suffer before his death

i'm actually panicking a bit, like panicking, like physically

I've had a few panic attacks this week and terrible acid anxiety in my stomach and migraines like crazy.

I went ti my meditation class tonight and yoga last night. It helped.

He is essentially right that UKIP can't continue as a viable party when it's manned primarily by ex-BNP lumps and a variety of elderly eccentrics. The thought of an organised, well-funded and 'legitimate' far right springing up is pretty scary but Banks is a deeply unpleasant man who can't keep his trap shut so he'll hopefully poison the chances of any new party being taken seriously. Farage isn't giving up without a fight so they can argue amongst themselves for a while.

It was heartening to see that another of Leave's biggest donors lost £330m in the subsequent downturn.

Small crumbs of comfort. Things are looking so fucking bleak now that a hideous right-wing Gove-Johnson-led perpetual Tory government sticking with austerity and trying to appease leave voters with some kind of immigration caps is beginning to look like *the best* we can hope for. Argh.

Joking around with my workmates from EU countries, "You can always go to Scotland! They will welcome you with open arms there!" My heart's not really in it though.

So Theresa May looking good in some polling for the Tory leadership that I just saw and promptly forgot the source and my phone died.

"thatcher 2: electric boogaloo"

3 results (0.47 seconds)

Lots of glowing press, with the FT asking if she was "Britain's Merkel".

She hasn't had that many boosters in the papers for a couple of years but the stop-Boris campaign and need for a perceived calm head has changed that.

Lots of glowing press, with the FT asking if she was "Britain's Merkel".

No way, that's obviously Nicola Sturgeon.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexitvote/2016/06/27/de-toxifying-the-uks-eu-exit-process-a-multi-national-compromise-is-possible/

xp was literally just reading a quote from a Labour source describing Angela Eagle as "Britain's Merkel"

though I guess Eagle does project an aura of low-key, non-hectoring even-temperedness that is quite Merkel-esque

Sounds like pre-Bismarck Germany and Austria, in this customs union or that but not in the Holy Roman Empire, being an elector or not, could even be room for freistadt London. Makes for interesting maps in the penguin atlas of world history but sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare.

worth remembering that the BNP had 50 something councillors elected in 2008 and by 2015 were wiped off the map completely? mainly because of what ShariVari is saying about Banks; the then-leader couldn't keep his mouth shut about his true feelings. they rise, they get exposure, they die; that's the British way with these clowns. i mean thus far anyway.

on Singapore:

What about Singapore? This is the one that really gets on my nerves. A lot of right-wing people imagine that Singapore is a libertarian utopia because the public sector share of GDP is quite low. But this is silly. Singapore doesn’t have big spending ministries, but it does have a huge sovereign-wealth fund that owns major industrial and infrastructure projects in the country as well as financial investments worldwide. Rather than pay welfare benefits out of tax money, Singapore made it compulsory to pay into private insurance, through the so-called central provident fund, a little like a much more comprehensive version of Obamacare. Oh, and basically everyone lives in a council flat.

After independence (from Malaysia, and Britain) the Singaporean political and business class took a joint decision to develop the port as the major regional transport hub, and to take advantage of that to build up industry around it, notably chemicals and computer/semiconductor manufacturing. Their thinking was that economic development in Asia would create a huge opportunity for this role. This worked really well, but it’s worth noting that it was very much a succession of joint decisions by government technocrats, political leaders, and investors rather than some sort of idealised libertarian hands-off process. That is supposedly more true of Hong Kong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a myth too. You’ll note they didn’t start off by creating a new tariff barrier between their massive port facility and the market it serves.

http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/05/15/brexit-strategic-incompetence-for-fun-and-profit/

LOOOOL that Sarah Vine email. Marina Hyde: 'Claire Blunderwood'.

― jedi slimane (suzy), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 16:08 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

First actual laugh out loud moment since last Thursday on the train this morning.

thanks for that LSE link, stet.

Great to see the parliament benches all having such a great laugh though. What a great bunch of lads.

https://twitter.com/ormondroyd/status/747160476870651904

Q: How many Brexiters does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: We never said there was a lightbulb.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmG2SZ0WQAASpAq.jpg

Dan Hodges, who seems to be neck and neck with George Eaton as the plotters' favourite leaking tool, is suggesting that Eagle won't declare but Own Smith will.

Smith didn't vote for Iraq as he wasn't elected until 2010 but was one of the first to come out in favour of 'a progressive case for ending free movement'.

Owen*

I like the bit in jamie reed mp's letter where he's like "now we've exited the eu" and would like him to type another one after someone tells him how far we have to go still

YouGov has May 17 points clear of Johnson in the leadership contest that matters more. Johnson's favourability rating has apparently dropped 18%.

May has form for wanting to obliterate Human Rights legislation and it was only EU law being knit into devolution and the Good Friday Agreement that stopped her from doing it. Boris hasn't attended Parliament since the vote result.

worth remembering that the BNP had 50 something councillors elected in 2008 and by 2015 were wiped off the map completely? mainly because of what ShariVari is saying about Banks; the then-leader couldn't keep his mouth shut about his true feelings. they rise, they get exposure, they die; that's the British way with these clowns. i mean thus far anyway.

It's because all the racists voted UKIP instead.

I'd believe some random fairground psychic before I believe that YouGov poll, but I suspect May will outperform Johnson in the debates because she can slip between authoritarian and touchy-feely with relative ease. Boris only has one register and even that is fundamentally a register for good times and not leading us through the biggest crisis since the war.

They probably need another Leaver to declare if they really want to stop Boris, anyone who can split the Eurosceptic vote.

Talking of questionable YouGov polls, this one on who Labour voters would replace Corbyn with if he stepped down is a treat:

http://i.imgur.com/UlsXCDc.jpg

Eagle and Smith are the least popular of the named options.

Now Gove's throwing his hat into the ring because he's reluctantly come to the conclusion that Boris is evil.

Fuck me, this is getting nuts.

"I have come, reluctantly, to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership."

It's no May for certain, unless Johnson drops out, no?

no=now

Sorry, still processing

Just mental.

STAB IN THE BACK!

Leadsome also in!

Eagerly awaiting the Sarah Vine column that makes it all about her.

Yes surely this is May, with Gove as Chanx and Osborne as Foreign.

Gove as chancellor Jesus Christ almighty.

DREAM TEAM

Still can't quite work out how May would square her Remain position with ongoing Brexit.

She'll push for withdrawal from European Convention for Human Rights for sure, which will help get at least some of the brexiteers onside with her..

Can't get that without fucking up devolution and NI even more.

Theresa May: "Boris did a deal with the Germans.....The last time he did, he came back with three nearly new water cannon."

Pitching on civil liberty is an odd look for her.