Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Eagerly awaiting the Sarah Vine column that makes it all about her.

Yes surely this is May, with Gove as Chanx and Osborne as Foreign.

Gove as chancellor Jesus Christ almighty.

DREAM TEAM

Still can't quite work out how May would square her Remain position with ongoing Brexit.

She'll push for withdrawal from European Convention for Human Rights for sure, which will help get at least some of the brexiteers onside with her..

Can't get that without fucking up devolution and NI even more.

Theresa May: "Boris did a deal with the Germans.....The last time he did, he came back with three nearly new water cannon."

Pitching on civil liberty is an odd look for her.

Also said she will not pull out of ECHR so bad news for fans of hanging.

hey guys 1 of the candidates is called crab

Gove May Crabb Johnson

^ expecting numbers on that

with a side order of Fox Hunt

A confederacy of cockfarmers

Gove has the support of Murdoch right? Boris might not be the sure bet we all thought. Thankfully. Not that I want Gove either.

Boris may not even stand now.

May backtracking on ECHR, but doubling-down on "free market with no free movement" fantasy. Is anybody anywhere going to sit them down and explain this to them?

Gove is a Brexit true believer, right? I'd been consoling myself with the idea that May or Johnson would probably end up compromising on some version of EEA status, but Gove could just blow everything up.

Yes, Gove is true out afaict

Don't think it'll be Gove. In fact, I think there's a decent chance that it may not even get to a membership vote, with May being the sole candidate after the others drop out in return for preferment, a bit like with Michael Howard.

^ my hot political tip 4 the day

Yeah, Boris is smart enough to want to avoid the madness, Gove just .. isn't.

Hunt is out, backing May

https://vine.co/v/hgbab1H2LH7

Giving it to May without a contest would also provide a helpful contrast with the current uh difficulties afflicting Labour. Expect to see this option getting quite a push in the media in forthcoming days.

How is BJ's retreat and silence since the vote being perceived by Tory mp's? Are you there no 'you wanted this, show yourself' questions? Or are they mostly ignoring him? Trying to parse this.

It's difficult to tell as they haven't been very vocal about it, other than the wing that actively wants him to die in a fire. There are certainly some who have questioned his Telegraph stream of consciousness, particularly around the immigration angle, but until he pins his colours to the mast it's not quite clear what people are going to be opposing. His disappearance does feed into a broader trend of 'step back and think about it'.

@jimwaterson
Tory MP Philip Hollobone in the House of Commons formally complaining about Lindsay Lohan's referendum night Twitter attacks on Kettering.

Good luck, Theresa.

can one or more of you please supply a comprehensive bullet-point list of stuff about theresa may pls

* She's bad

Thx SV

i know that, want the deets tho

- * is utterly despicable racist homophobe who is anti-civil liberties, pro-snooping
Fin

she had that rad jacket that gave her the look of someone who would feel at home on the bridge of a star destroyer

it is as i suspected

she blocked Johnson's canon

Here's an example of May in action from 2011, channelling the frustration of the plain people of england at being unable to break-up a foreign family into 'you couldn't make it up' ridicule of the EHCR by, er, making something up: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/oct/04/theresa-may-wrong-cat-deportation

one to remember when anyone tries to contrast May favourably with dishonest demagogues like Farage or Johnson.

can one or more of you please supply a comprehensive bullet-point list of stuff about theresa may pls

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes#welfare

oof

Recently famous for signing off on vans with GO HOME plastered all over them being driven around minority-heavy areas.

She is a die-hard on immigration and has been successful in implementing a lot of bad reform / blocking a lot of positive reform to student visa statuses against strong opposition from Osborne and others. If you were a Little England Leave voter you couldn't really ask for anyone nominally within the remain camp to represent you better.

It's an impressive feat of evil tbh - keeping the Home Office for 6 years in racist paranoid Tory Britain, with the press screaming every time made-up immigration targets are missed, I mean fuck she must have some wolverine indestructible regeneration thing going on.

So who is the lesser of three evils?

boris johnson is improbably the lesser evil i think

however, he probably won't even run

Three heads on the same Hydra TBH

yeah

Still can't quite work out how May would square her Remain position with ongoing Brexit.

That can be spun as "respecting the decision of the British people" without too much trouble. And having not actively campaigned to leave means she'll be better-placed than Gove or Johnson to negotiate with the EU.

It's an impressive feat of evil tbh - keeping the Home Office for 6 years in racist paranoid Tory Britain, with the press screaming every time made-up immigration targets are missed, I mean fuck she must have some wolverine indestructible regeneration thing going on.

I was thinking that, the Home Office tends to chew ministers up and spit them out - how many New Labour Home Secretaries were there? Then I remembered that Cameron kept IDS in a job despite his manifest failings until such point as he knifed him in the front.

I'll bullet point this for you

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/who-should-be-the-next-pm-theresa-may-gets-my-vote/

* she definitely deserves snaps for refusing an honorary membership of the Carlton Club, because it doesn’t admit women
* She’s been married to the same man since 1980 (morally sound: check),
* doesn’t have any children (could be a turn-off for some but it does mean she’s less likely to be distracted on the job)
* She cooks a new recipe every week
* she goes to church every Sunday
* she knows there’s more to life than Westminster

:D

That can be spun as "respecting the decision of the British people" without too much trouble.

I get that she can say that (and has done, today), but it seems kind of unprecedented for a government to press ahead year on year with a policy that it doesn't believe in, which it could change, but doesn't. That's the bollocks of referendums and I just have a feeling she'll come unstuck with it. Maybe she'll just be forced to eventually say "actually, I was wrong, and life outside the EU is actually better for Britain."

In her speech she said it just isn't fair how some kids in London speak English only as a second language. FOAD now.

Crime committed on buses rather than by buses.
Such a great set up to not get a single laugh?

I guess I have to do some delving into anti-EEC politicians who became ministers after 1975 handled it.